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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:51 pm

My VW had CCS but in the year I had the car I never used it. Ir is really how you drive your car.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:36 pm

GlennD wrote:Networks matter to some. My dentist purchased a Tesla to drive to San Francisco. Me I am happy with my Mercedes B's L2 charging. I recently did my annual check strictly by time; My mileage was less than 4000 miles. It is my sole car but as a retired person I do not drive a lot.
It does depend on one's situation. I, too, have just one car and am also long-retired but I average 20,000 miles a year. Some of it is 70 mile grocery shopping trips, a part of rural living, but most of the miles are long road trips. Haven't been on an airliner in years — I'd like to keep it that way — but I do enjoy exploring the country on road trips, such as a 3100 mile trip to California last month, and I have used the Supercharger network more than 260 times in 2½ years. For me, Tesla makes road trips fun!

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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:32 pm

Arches in October is really nice. Stayed overnight there (Devil's Garden Cmpgrd.) and hiked the next morning on the way back from Boulder/Rocky Mtn. NP in 1992.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:55 pm

It is great if you like to travel. Me I am a stay at home type. Tesla makes since when you consider the Supercharger network.

I see that there was a reply but I have GRA on my ignore list. I am much happier. He is a great spammer!
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:30 am

lorenfb wrote:
https://insideevs.com/
VW Claims By 2020, Its Electric Cars Will Match Tesla At Half Price
When the "competition" promises they'll start competing in 2 years, they are not really the "competition."

Also, will the SEC investigate VW for misleading investors if they don't release an EV for $25K in 2020?

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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:48 am

webb14leafs wrote:
lorenfb wrote:
https://insideevs.com/
VW Claims By 2020, Its Electric Cars Will Match Tesla At Half Price
When the "competition" promises they'll start competing in 2 years, they are not really the "competition."

Also, will the SEC investigate VW for misleading investors if they don't release an EV for $25K in 2020?

I hear the new VW EV has a secret hidden ICE motor.

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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:27 am

EVDRIVER wrote:I hear the new VW EV has a secret hidden ICE motor.
Lol, but it doesn't turn on if the car is hooked up to emissions testing. :lol:
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:28 pm

webb14leafs wrote:These arguments will keep going on for a while because after the next couple quarters (or possibly sooner) it might be a long time before Tesla reports another profit. It was vital for them to show that they COULD show a profit, because the next thing they need to do is build up a ton of debt as soon as possible.
That is not what they are doing. They will continue to make profits every quarter until most of the shorts disappear, TSLA is part of S&P500 and they have good investment grade credit rating.

Besides, they have other avenues of raising money. Mainly from local governments/banks. They already did so in China. They'll do it again in EU. Even in US, they'll make it a condition to locate their next factory - raise money for us thr' state bonds.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 pm

GlennD wrote:Networks matter to some. My dentist purchased a Tesla to drive to San Francisco. Me I am happy with my Mercedes B's L2 charging. I recently did my annual check strictly by time; My mileage was less than 4000 miles. It is my sole car but as a retired person I do not drive a lot.
Charging network is just a nice to have for me. Currently the overall package of Model 3 is hard to beat. Esp, once the SR becomes available.

Even if you don't want to use the supercharging network, why would you go out of the way to buy a different EV that isn't better in any respect ? That is why I've always said, the only way others can really compete with Model 3 is on price.

Its been a while since we heard much about Infiniti EV, so lets call it what it is. Nissan/infiniti didn't build an EV because they simply couldn't build anything that could effectively compete with a Tesla.
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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:32 am

I am waiting for a basic car with color as the only option. It may never happen but if you believe Elon it will happen in 6 months or so. I received an Email offering a car with an intermediate range battery. It was still 47K. , not 37K
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Traded for a Cirrus White 2014 Mercedes B (totaled)
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Loved the VW but it sat too low for my old body
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