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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:00 am
by EatsShootsandLeafs
GaleHawkins wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:24 am
I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
Why?

I can't imagine for a moment why somebody needs to have met somebody in person to call them a liar. Doesn't make sense at all. Are you able to expound on this belief?

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:17 am
by webb14leafs
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:00 am
GaleHawkins wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:24 am
I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
Why?

I can't imagine for a moment why somebody needs to have met somebody in person to call them a liar. Doesn't make sense at all. Are you able to expound on this belief?
Technically, you have to know someone's intent to deceive to call them a "liar". I think Musk believes all of his predictions, and aside from the going private tweet, they have been substantially accurate, just not on time.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:20 am
by EatsShootsandLeafs
webb14leafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:17 am
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:00 am
GaleHawkins wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:24 am
I have not met Musk face to face like you must have done to be able to publicly call him a LIAR.
Why?

I can't imagine for a moment why somebody needs to have met somebody in person to call them a liar. Doesn't make sense at all. Are you able to expound on this belief?
Technically, you have to know someone's intent to deceive to call them a "liar". I think Musk believes all of his predictions, and aside from the going private tweet, they have been substantially accurate, just not on time.
I agree intent is a critical part of a lie.

As for Musk's predictions, he has made so many that have been so wildly, shockingly wrong that he's either a liar or a fool. We can probably all agree he's not a fool.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:28 am
by jlv
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:20 am
As for Musk's predictions, he has made so many that have been so wildly, shockingly wrong that he's either a liar or a fool. We can probably all agree he's not a fool.
Musk posted this last week.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1222597315023654912
A friend just sent me this excerpt from a Tesla blog I wrote 14 years ago
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I'm sure we can agree the Model S is not an affordable car. At least the Model 3 is more affordable than the S. But they do seem to be chugging away working against this plan.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 am
by EatsShootsandLeafs
jlv wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:28 am
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:20 am
As for Musk's predictions, he has made so many that have been so wildly, shockingly wrong that he's either a liar or a fool. We can probably all agree he's not a fool.
Musk posted this last week.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1222597315023654912
A friend just sent me this excerpt from a Tesla blog I wrote 14 years ago
Image
I'm sure we can agree the Model S is not an affordable car. At least the Model 3 is more affordable than the S. But they do seem to be chugging away working against this plan.
He's said literally dozens of things that were patently untrue. And when somebody time-constrains something and it doesn't happen, it means they were wrong, quite simply.

Many things when he's said them are so preposterous as to be clearly untrue and impossible, and roundly mocked the day the statements are made. Last year was probably the peak of this. Will be interesting to see how 2020 pans out.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:24 am
by webb14leafs
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 am


Many things when he's said them are so preposterous as to be clearly untrue and impossible, and roundly mocked the day the statements are made. Last year was probably the peak of this. Will be interesting to see how 2020 pans out.
Hate to poke the bear, but can you be more specific? Not meeting planned milestones doesn't make someone a liar. He's also not the only CEO to do this. He just gets more attention for it.

The guy takes moon-shots for a living. He has accomplished things everyone said were impossible. If some of his ideas end up being truly impossible, should we complain about his personal belief that he could achieve it?

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:48 am
by iPlug
We all need to stop playing the lottery here
:D

As it is said: denial, anger, bargaining, depression then acceptance...

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:23 pm
by dgpcolorado
EVDRIVER wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:19 am
Pretty crazy today.
Yes: Stock closed at $780.00 +$129.43 (19.89%)

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:39 pm
by WetEV
dgpcolorado wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:23 pm
EVDRIVER wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:19 am
Pretty crazy today.
Yes: Stock closed at $780.00 +$129.43 (19.89%)
Wonder if short positions are getting closed out? :o Gotta hurt.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:22 pm
by iPlug
Shorts lost $2.5 billion today, $8 billion so far about a month into this year.