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Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:59 pm
by LeftieBiker
Starship...?

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:17 pm
by jlv
LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:59 pm
Starship...?
SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com/starship
Starship is intended to be 100% reusable super-heavy-lift spacecraft system.

There are prototypes under construction. Lots of cool pictures and discussion here: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=72.0

An initial test flight is coming "soon":
https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21122 ... hica-texas

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:23 pm
by EatsShootsandLeafs
jlv wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:29 am
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:22 am
(apparently 12,000 people on robinhood bought tsla for first time yesterday).
Sadly, those people might learn the hard way the answer to "How do you make a small fortune in the stock market?".
(spoiler: start with a large fortune)
I like it. It's like how do you become a millionaire in Formula 1? Start as a billionaire.

The stock closed at $900+ today. I want to short it but the volatility is so massive that buying puts are outrageously expensive. The whole thing is just like a room full of people shooting each other in a circle. Good on anybody who has turned $5k into $100k as I'm sure reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets is full of right now.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:25 pm
by jlv
WetEV wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:43 pm
Mars or fossil fuel reduction? Pick one.
These are not mutually exclusive. To suggest so is silly.

Besides, once we get to Mars, there is no fossil fuel.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:13 pm
by iPlug
For everyone thus far who missed out on TSLA, don't feel too bad. The shorts may have taken the worst, but aren't the only ones who took it in the pants:

Saudi Arabia fund dumped nearly all of its Tesla shares in the fourth quarter before the rally
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/saudi-a ... shows.html

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:29 pm
by goldbrick
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:23 pm
The stock closed at $900+ today.
I think it was actually $887.06, in USD at least, but who's counting?

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:38 pm
by WetEV
jlv wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:25 pm
WetEV wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:43 pm
Mars or fossil fuel reduction? Pick one.
These are not mutually exclusive. To suggest so is silly.
Then Musk's plans are silly.
4,500,000 kg of fuel per launch. Hundreds of thousands of launches.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:48 pm
by iPlug
jlv wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:25 pm
WetEV wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:43 pm
Mars or fossil fuel reduction? Pick one.
These are not mutually exclusive. To suggest so is silly.

Besides, once we get to Mars, there is no fossil fuel.
I think those not seeing the bigger picture may be missing that Tesla Energy would be a front runner for producing that rocket fuel, from renewable energy of course.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:07 pm
by WetEV
iPlug wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:48 pm
I think those not seeing the bigger picture may be missing that Tesla Energy would be a front runner for producing that rocket fuel, from renewable energy of course.
Renewable energy will be replacing fossil energy over decades. Any diverted to make rocket fuel here, or worse on Mars, will slow this process. First launch to Mars Musk has announced will be in 2022. That takes a huge blunt to believe.

Re: TSLA corporate outlook

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:18 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
I give him huge props for trying in a “in my lifetime” timespan to get to Mars. NASA lost its way.