GRA wrote:There's certainly much to be said for the Volt, but I expect the Clarity's greater rear headroom and fifth seat as well as Honda's general reputation for reliability (even though that hasn't applied to their hybrids in the past) will weigh more heavily with the general public, at least until the Clarity PHEV's been around long enough that it's possible to make a useful comparison. And the new Accord hybrid's selling quite well also.
The Chevy Volt also has a fifth seat. It may not be a great one, but it is there and can be used.
I meant a true fifth seat, not one only suitable for children or short term use.
GRA wrote:One thing that does concern me with the 2nd gen. Volt is that GM is using more of the SoC range than they did in the first, so we'll have to see if that causes the Volt pack's to lose the excellent reputation for longevity that the 1st gen. earned.
Chevrolet has done an excellent job with building a durable solution for the Chevy Volt's battery. There is no reason to think that has changed.
There's certainly a reason to be concerned whether they will demonstrate the same longevity, when GM has increased the usable SoC from 65% to something over 75% (I've seen claims of 76-78%, and my own calcs come out in the same range).
RegGuheert wrote:Honda, OTOH, has a reputation for delivering batteries with unacceptable durability.
The Honda Clarity is the new entry in this space. If you want to worry about the durability of the battery in one of these two cars, it would be for that of the one in the Clarity, not the one in the Volt.
We have no disagreement that the Clarity is the major unknown, but that doesn't exclude concerns about the Volt as well for the reason stated. Nor do I think the majority of purchasers will even be aware of Honda's track record with HEV packs.
The 1st gen. Volt's track record is good, but 1st to 2nd gen. pack isn't an apples to apples comparison. If GM had kept the same usable SoC range while using the (slightly) improved cells, I'd be willing to make a more definitive prediction, but that would have only boosted AER to at best 45 miles, and more likely 42 or so. As it is, we'll have to wait to find out. That being said, I do believe that GM's approach of providing a robust TMS remains a necessary step for now, and is critical to long-term battery health over the full range of U.S. climates.