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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:19 pm

GCR:
First drive review: 202 Porsche Taycan 4S range experiences, from California canyons to the Arctic
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... the-arctic


A reminder, the 4S is the "cheaper, lighter, slower" base version. Similar article at IEVS:
2020 Porsche Taycan 4S First Drive: Canyon Carver, Winter Warrior
https://www.motor1.com/reviews/387026/2 ... rst-drive/


ABG:
Porsche Taycan demand exceeds expectations in Europe
30,000 customers have made down payments and 10,000 have placed firm orders
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/11/por ... ectations/
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:53 pm

GRA wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:50 pm
Note that the City efficiency is lower than the Hwy efficiency, which shows the effects of a 5,132 lb,. curb weight. I suspect some of the rest is due to grippy, non-LRR tires. This is somewhat disappointing for the U.S., not that I think the typical Taycan customer will care given how the car will likely be driven.
They won't care about the range, but they'll go nuts if it doesn't beat a Tesla off the line or win the local street race.
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Per the Green Car Reports article above, under significantly more favorable than EPA conditions (ideal temps, low speed):

After charging, for a driving stint that was mostly a low-speed freeway creep back to a staging area in downtown LA, we averaged 34.7 kwh per 100 miles (and 22 mph) over 13.6 miles. That stint suggested in the vicinity of 250 miles on a full charge.

This would add support that real world driving should look near the EPA ~200 mile range.

Agree, the high-roller performance enthusiast may not care tremendously about range and efficiency as long as he can get it from point A to B in style.
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:32 am

While the EPA 201 mile range for the Taycan may suck, as others have suggested, as long as it looks good and will work in town, most Porsche buyers won't care. Porsche buyers don't typically do long road trips in their cars unless it's a Cayenne or such family vehicle. Most will put at most 300mi/mo on their Taycans, I would bet.
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:21 pm

IEVS:
First Porsche Taycan Gets Delivered In The U.S.
https://insideevs.com/news/389168/first ... ivered-us/
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:13 pm

ABG:
2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S gets 192-mile EPA range rating
It's even less efficient than the Taycan Turbo
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/15/por ... epa-range/

A fact of probably zero concern to buyers.
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