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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:58 pm

It must be fun to be an automotive engineer at Porsche. The mentality seems to be "don't worry about cost, just make the most advanced and most fun to drive car you can". Of course, that leads to high sticker prices and high maintenance costs but they are really a hoot to drive if you like to push the envelope. It will be interesting to see how their EV's pan out.

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:13 am

GRA wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:37 pm

But can you imagine what it will be like when Porsche decides that batteries have advanced far enough to make a BEV 911? :o :shock:
If they can figure out how to make the batteries lighter and handle the heat better during continuous high intensity use then the sky is the limit in terms of a weekend track car/ fun daily driver. I'm excited to see the tech progress, with 11 manufacturers participating in Formula E (now including Porsche, Mercedes Benz, and Nissan) I expect we'll see some great innovations in the next 5-10 years...

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:53 pm

IEVS:
MotorWeek Drives Porsche Taycan Prototype In Stuttgart: Video
https://insideevs.com/reviews/368173/mo ... prototype/


I guess it handles like a Porsche - who woulda thought? :lol:
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:35 am

Quote: “the Taycan will begin its production life as two variants: the Taycan Turbo and the Taycan Turbo S, which run a staggering $150,900 and $185,000, respectively... Porsche has said it wants to offer versions of the Taycan that cost under $100,000. But even if or when that happens, the car is never going to be a mass-market sensation.”


No it is not a 300 mile EV and it is not a competitor to a Model S or Model 3. Let's see how many deposits hold since a base model is $150K with no added options and the real world range on a huge pack. This is a niche car for Porsche buyers and there is no way they will sell in the projected range with pretty much a price of double what was anticipated. No surprise here.

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:49 am

^^ It is a competitor to the Tesla on price.
Tesla Roadster 2.0, that is.

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:57 pm

I configured one just for fun and the price got over $230k. I'm sure I can remove a few options and be happy, but its over $200k for sure with any reasonable number of options. Heck the DCFC charging is an option. Also the portable charger is an option as well as any home wall chargers. It appears that you can buy the car with no way to charge except AC public charging. So the base price of $185 is really not realistic, and they nickel and dime you for options more than Tesla ever did. So sad. I really like the car, but its just not affordable. I can get a P3D for way less and it will beat the Porsche on every spec.
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:18 pm

Turbo is a funny name. Are their customers that stupid?

Electronic electron injection would have been better.
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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:21 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:18 pm
Turbo is a funny name. Are their customers that stupid?

Electronic electron injection would have been better.

If you pay $200K for that car you may be. Another Tesla Killer. Just buy a performance S and a 3 for the same price.

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:42 pm

palmermd wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:57 pm
I really like the car, but its just not affordable. I can get a P3D for way less and it will beat the Porsche on every spec.
Who ever expected Porsche to be affordable?

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Re: Porsche Taycan - A 300 mile EV

Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:15 pm

WetEV wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:42 pm
palmermd wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:57 pm
I really like the car, but its just not affordable. I can get a P3D for way less and it will beat the Porsche on every spec.
Who ever expected Porsche to be affordable?
The people who think the car has nothing more than a cheaper car already offers.

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