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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:55 pm

Moderator, don't bother.
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:21 pm

To which topic?
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:43 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:21 pm
To which topic?
How about "Mink hole, like a rat hole but much much nicer"?
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:17 pm

Since you are responsible for many of the OT posts and you're going to be flippant and unhelpful, then I'm not going to do it. If you actually hate topic drift, then I suggest you not engage in it.
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:45 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
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I am just reflecting what I see on the different forums combined with my experience in the 13 Leaf.

While I agree 230 miles is not a “no compromises experience”, it is a low compromise experience for regional driving and a nearly no compromises experience for suburban/city use. For cross country, it’s “doable” in summer I would say the 150-180 mile cars was questionable for cross country.

For us personally, our Leaf already outpaces our 2007 Kia Sedona, as we only get 200 miles per tank (plus a 2 gallon in the red reserve) in the beast for local drives (11-12 mpg).

I have done regional drives up to 500 miles in a day with our Plus, but once you leave city L3 infrastructure, it still requires more planning.

We have no disagreement that 230 miles is fine for all regional and local use, and isn't too much of a compromise for the typical weekend trip (say 150-250 miles radius) given at least one place to charge enroute. But you mention "different forums"; do you mean "different BEV forums"? Because that's a self-selected audience who already has some willingness to compromise on range and "refueling" time, and isn't reflective of the general public.
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:46 pm

WetEV, I'm pushed for time, so will reply tomorrow or Sunday.
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:41 pm

GRA wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:46 pm
WetEV, I'm pushed for time, so will reply tomorrow or Sunday.
Reply here

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=30611&p=573130#p573130
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:33 pm

GCC:
Audi boosts range and efficiency in e-tron; extra 25 km in WLTP
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/1 ... etron.html

Audi is introducing a standard technical update for its first all-electric product, the e-tron. This combines optimized drive system hardware with software adjustments to improve efficiency. As a result, all versions of the e-tron SUV will come off the assembly line with an extra 25 kilometers (15.5 mi) or so of range. The new models are available now to customers in Europe.

The new versions of the Audi e-tron 55 quattro will be able to drive for up to 436 kilometers (270.9 mi) on a full battery charge (WLTP cycle)—an additional 25 kilometers (15.5 mi) over its previous capability. Using a new type of wheel brake, the developers have achieved further reductions in residual brake torque. This refers to losses that occur as a result of the proximity of the brake calipers to the brake discs.

The drive system has also become more efficient. In normal driving, the motor on the rear axle provides propulsion as standard. Now, due to a number of optimizations, the front electric motor is almost entirely disengaged and disconnected from the electricity supply. Only when the driver requests more power do both motors spring into action. . . .

In addition, the usable range of the high-voltage battery has increased. The battery in the Audi e-tron 55 quattro has a total capacity of 95 kWh and now gives customers access to a net power figure of 86.5 kWh.

All newly produced models will benefit from the technical upgrade. There is no change to prices for the Audi e-tron 55 quattro, which start at €80,900 (US$89,000).

The engineers have also made improvements to cooling. The highly flexible thermal management system, which comprises four separate circuits, has been revised and now regulates the temperature of the high-voltage components even more efficiently. Volume flows in the coolant circuit have been reduced, which means that the pump uses less power.

The sophisticated cooling system continues to guarantee rapid DC charging, a long battery life cycle and reproducible performance even under heavy loads. The standard heat pump harnesses waste heat from the high-voltage battery to keep the interior warm. Depending on the outside temperature, that can boost the Audi e-tron’s range by up to ten percent in customer operation. . . .

The degree of coasting recuperation can be set to any of three stages by means of paddles on the steering wheel, and there are now greater distinctions between the three, which allows the driver the option of a more pronounced “one-pedal feeling.” When braking from 100 km/h (62.1 mph), the Audi e-tron can recuperate up to 300 N·m (221.3 lb-ft) and 220 kW. That corresponds to more than 70% of its operating energy input. . . .

So maybe another 10-12 miles EPA, which is about a 5-6% increase.
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:00 am

Audi's official E-Tron Maintenance:

https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam/aud ... -etron.pdf

Err... find the correct page
Minor Maintenance
Brake system - Check the thickness of the brake pads
Connected box battery - Check state of health with Vehicle Diagnostic Tester in Guided Functions
First aid kit - Check and enter expiration date YYYY / MM _________ (if applicable)
Front and rear axle/suspension components - Check dust seals on ball joints and tie rod ends; check for exces-
sive play
Instrument cluster - Check warning and indicator lights
Multi-point inspection - Complete
Service reminder indicator display - Reset display
Space saver spare wheel and tire - Check condition and tire inflation pressure, adjust if necessary (if equipped)
Tires - Check condition and tire tread wear; Check and record the tread depth
Tires - Check tire inflation pressure and adjust if necessary
Tire repair kit - Check and record the completeness and expiration date (if equipped)
Wiper blades - Check condition and replace if necessary
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Re: 2018 launch Audi E-tron BESUV. Official thread?

Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:18 pm

I received an FB ad that made me LOL. From https://www.facebook.com/audipaloalto/p ... 2759123497
Audi Palo Alto
January 14 at 8:04 AM ·

A new era of electric has arrived at Audi Palo Alto. Experience the only electric SUV built with Audi DNA today. Lease now for $749/Month for 42 Months. Call 650-753-6494 for your test drive!

*Disclaimer
2019 Etron Quattro- 749 a month lease PREMIUM PKG.– 1 at this price. Stock #KB012061. $749 a month lease with $7,000 cash from customer plus a $0 security deposit, DMV fees & tax. Based on a 42 month closed-end lease offered to qualified customers with premier credit approval by Audi Financial Services (AFS). *Plus $7500 BEV FEDERAL TAX CREDIT.Must Lease with AFS. Lessee responsible at lease end for mileage over 7,500 miles per year at 25 cents per mile. See dealer for details. Expires 01/31/2020
If I read that right and assuming 41 payments at $749 + the $7000 down, that's just shy of $38K to rent one of these cars for 42 months. And, you only get to drive it 7,500 miles/year.

I guesstimate that tax, fees and registration would push this to ~$42K total cost of lease. I guess some folks just have $ to burn.

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