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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:43 pm

The 'PZEV' that Subaru began putting on many of its cars sometime last decade was to indicate that they met CARB's PZEV requirement.
A partial zero emission vehicle, in the United States, is an automobile that has zero evaporative emissions from its fuel system, has a 15-year (or at least 150,000-mile) warranty on its emission-control components, and meets SULEV tailpipe-emission standards.[1]

In California, PZEVs have their own administrative category for low-emission vehicles. The category was made in a bargain between automakers and the California Air Resources Board (CARB), so that automobile makers could delay making mandated zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs)—battery electric and fuel-cell electric vehicles.

The Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (SULEV) standard is more stringent than the Ultra Low Emission Vehicle and low-emission vehicle standards. All emissions-related components, including the electric-propulsion parts of hybrid electric vehicles, must be warranteed for 15 years or 150,000 miles. . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_z ... ns_vehicle

I don't remember if my 2003 Forester (the first year of the 2nd Gen.) pre-dated the standard or if they made changes to subsequent MY (or completed the 15 year/150k emissions cert late, as was the case with the Volt in its first year) so that it did, but mine lacks the PZEV badge, and later Foresters of the same generation have it.

As for the comment that Subaru is not a leader in fuel economy, they've been usually at or near the top of the list when it comes to AWD cars, despite not being HEVs, all of this with an R&D budget that's minuscule compared to say Toyota. None of which improves my opinion of the Crosstrek (P)HEV, as I remain unimpressed, but fair's fair.
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:13 pm

Here's another review. AlexonAutos - 30 minutes long, but worth watching for anyone interested in the Crosstrek PHEV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Cl_wpzmTo
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:47 pm

You have to use the "url" code instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Cl_wpzmTo
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:24 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:You have to use the "url" code instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Cl_wpzmTo
Thanks! well worth the time to watch.
I like how they really bash the Outlander PHEV for such poor ICE MPG, that and it's rather dated looks/design.
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:37 pm

[quote="LeftieBiker"]You have to use the "url" code instead.

Weird. I used the url code first and it just showed up with the tags and no video so I switched to the [YouTube] one, which did the same thing. I figured if I posted, someone would figure it out.

I actually messaged this Alex guy on Facebook to ask when/where the Crosstrek would be available and he said it would be a while before they're in dealers' showrooms. That's basically what all the dealers have been saying. I'm just going to wait for this and the Volvo XC40 before making any decision. There may be some more PHEV small SUV's coming out before year-end, too. This article https://insideevs.com/mercedes-benz-lau ... hevs-2019/ says Mercedes will have 10 different PHEV models by the end of 2019.
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:49 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:You have to use the "url" code instead.

Weird. I used the url code first and it just showed up with the tags and no video so I switched to the [YouTube] one, which did the same thing. I figured if I posted, someone would figure it out.
The preview screen only shows the html, not the actual function being invoked. It really doesn't make much sense, as I also recall using the youtube option successfully...
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:06 pm

A full video URL inside the youtube tag works, but change "https:" to "http:".
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:09 pm

Valdemar wrote:A full video URL inside the youtube tag works, but change "https:" to "http:".
Good to know. Thanks.
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:07 pm

^^^ The usual excellent review from Alex. I wish I liked the car better, but the sub-20 mile AER combined with the loss of cargo height and lack of spare tire or room for one make it a non-starter for me. I did like the comparos, esp. with the Outlander, as Alex has the same issues with that car that I do. He tested the pre-2019 version; I'd like for him to test the 2019 to see if that's enough of an improvement, although the MPG still eliminates it from consideration for me - my 16 year old Forester gets better Hwy mpg.
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Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV

Thu May 16, 2019 11:13 am

Capitol Subaru (San Jose) called me yesterday to let me know they finally had some Crosstrek PHEVs in. I asked if I could test drive one today and was told yes. I showed up there this morning at the appointed time. The salesman told me "You know there's a $5,000 markup over MSRP, and that's non-negotiable, right?" I'll skip the rest of the conversation, but in short I said no, but I was promised a test drive. The salesman left to get the keys to another car blocking it, left me standing in the rain and wind for 10 minutes, then sent a young saleswoman out. She told me they wouldn't let me test drive it unless I agreed in advance to pay $5K over MSRP. I could have agreed, done the test drive, then walked away, but I didn't want to do business with them so I left. The salesman told me the reason for the markup was because it was the only one available. Basically, because they can. I still like the look and the features. Even with the markup, it's cheaper than the other things I'm looking at like the Volvo XC60 PHEV, but I figure if I wait 4 - 6 months there will be a lot more in the showrooms and no $5K markup. There's supposed to be an XC40 PHEV coming out soon, too.
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