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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:04 pm

evnow wrote:
JPVLeaf wrote:As predicted ... well, in my head. ;)
That is, it would be higher priced than Leaf, but just dollars below $40k (i.e., $39,990 -39,999).
This will be interesting to watch. Competition is good.
Well, 15% got it right in the poll.
Yes, my selection in the poll was for "$39,000 -39,999".
There was no option for "$39,990 -39,999". 8-)
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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:16 pm

Rusty wrote:Is that $39,995 with destination charge (same price as a base Volt), or without the destination charge?
With the destination charge: see http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/byoC ... im&pvc=500" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Probably a bit cheaper in some states, like CA, where it will qualify for the $2,500 CVRP rebate, while the Volt doesn't. Also, maybe the Focus EV will be a bit better equipped than the base Volt.
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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:33 pm

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Rusty wrote:Is that $39,995 with destination charge (same price as a base Volt), or without the destination charge?
With the destination charge: see http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/byoC ... im&pvc=500" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Either I'm confused, or you're confused, or we both are. Yes, the Volt is $39,995 with the destination (base price $39,145). Is the $39,995 for the FFE with the destination (making the base FFE and Volt the same price) or without the destination (making the base FFE more than the base Volt)?
Probably a bit cheaper in some states, like CA, where it will qualify for the $2,500 CVRP rebate, while the Volt doesn't.
Yet... By the time the FFE comes out that'll probably be moot. It's not clear when the Volt will be AT-PZEV, but it should be sometime during the MY '12 run (which means probably before the FFE hits the streets).
Also, maybe the Focus EV will be a bit better equipped than the base Volt.
Interesting thought. The base Volt isn't that bad a car. All said, adding in the PiP the $3x,xxx price market is getting pretty crowded.

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:00 am

Rusty wrote:Yet... By the time the FFE comes out that'll probably be moot. It's not clear when the Volt will be AT-PZEV, but it should be sometime during the MY '12 run (which means probably before the FFE hits the streets).
Technically that would be a $1250 rebate as opposed to a $2500 rebate for the Focus. Not a huge difference but noticeable.

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:19 am

Rusty wrote:
Boomer23 wrote:
Rusty wrote:Is that $39,995 with destination charge (same price as a base Volt), or without the destination charge?
With the destination charge: see http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/byoC ... im&pvc=500" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Either I'm confused, or you're confused, or we both are.
:lol: I'll take the hit on that one. Semantics got me, I guess.
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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:32 am

Boomer23 wrote:I'll take the hit on that one. Semantics got me, I guess.
How 'bout we agree to share it. I wasn't clear in my initial wording.

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:39 am

What is the EPA rating? (Leaf is 72?) I wonder if it's going to have the 80% charging rule, too, or not?

And battery chemistry? Manganese or Iron Phosphate?

At that price ($40K), why would people want to buy it over the 2013 Leaf that would have the 6.6KW charger, assuming that 2013 Leaf pricing is same as 2012?

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:34 am

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IBELEAF wrote:Overpriced...
+1, and not good for the growth of the EV market, IMO.

And just two paint colors?!? :o And folks have been saying that Nissan's five colors were a weak offering. At least there's a leather option. I wonder if the power seats will be included or available, or if they were deleted for weight savings.

It will be interesting to hear the weight and performance reports, as well as the mpge rating. I'm still predicting that it'll be heavier than the LEAF due to the built-in weight of the components necessary to make the ICE version on the same assembly line. And with the batteries in the rear luggage area, I'm expecting a rear weight bias and a center of gravity that's higher than it should be.
You mean like the LEAF platform modification/conversion. Don't forget the LEAF is not a ground-up build regardless of the marketing speak and it is on a shared line and has many, many parts off other Nissan cars, even their trucks. A model S is a ground-up EV.

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:37 am

If that is the base price it's going to be a tough sell. My guess is it will handle better then the LEAF and seem nicer overall with better features and materials.

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Re: Ford Opens Ordering for Electric Focus : $39,995

Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:38 am

They might actually sell a decent amount. I think that Ford has a lot of die hard fans that are willing to spend a little extra to "keep it in the Brand". GM had a lot of those followers too, but I believe the bailout really took a toll on their fan base. I'd still rather have a base model leaf for about 5k less. I will admit, the Ford Sync system is pretty nice, but not 5k nice.
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