KeiJidosha
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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:55 pm

dtomko wrote:Good to know. I don't have enough experience at night to do a comparison, but the headlights alone light up two lines on the Accessories meter.
All " Electricity Consumption Indicators" lines are not equal. Upper “Heat & A/C” lines show High Voltage battery load that is significant to range. Representing maybe 500-1,000 watts per line. Lower lines are 12 volt “Other System” load, and indicate maybe 50-100 watts per line. A small impact, but it gets your attention that the headlights or seat heaters are on and drawing a load from the 12 volt battery.

I agree with you that brighter/more efficient headlights would be a plus.
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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:29 am

[/quote]The new lease price is very good though. Probably a substantial loss for Honda. It's enough to make me think of visiting a dealer for a test drive.[/quote]

Good luck. Few if any dealers have any to test drive. They're trickling in about one every other month or so with waiting lists. $259 a month, free maintenance, free roadside, free home charger, collision insurance included, unlimited mileage. I wish it weren't just a compliance car, but the deal was too good to pass up, and it's really a great car.

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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:09 pm

I'm getting some cold weather experience with Fit EV now in the northeast. So, with temperatures dropping into the 20s at night (my car is not garaged), I'm seeing range drop down to the low 50s on average. Lowest I saw was 39 miles on the GOM, but that was after a day of driving without preheating. Lowest temp I drove in was 15 one morning and made it the 35 miles to work with 12 miles remaining. In the cold weather, regen doesn't kick in until battery warms up a bit, which for me is about 2 or so miles. Preheating is key and the Fit stays pretty warm after you preheat. For some reason, no matter what you leave the climate setting on, when you preheat it heats the cabin to about 80! Heated seats are quite warm; low setting is warm enough.
Downsides: like several other FEV owners, my bluetooth died - apparently it's a faulty module. Also it stopped communicating with the app, also happening to others. I brought mine in to dealer yesterday. Also a rock cracked the windshield and Honda has to approve who works on it, so dealer will either send it out or tell me where to take it.
Still really enjoying it and the savings in gas covers the monthly lease price. I will let you know how it does in the snow, whenever we start getting any.

Drew

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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:08 am

So the Fit seems to suffer from diminished range in the winter much more than the Leaf. I've seen the GOM go as low as 21 miles on a full charge (100% - no setting for 80%). Others have seen range estimates as low as 15 miles. In the summer my GOM was showing as much as 116 miles. There's a lot of unhappiness among some leasers here in the northeast. Also regen is not nearly as good - I assume that's reduced for all EVs in the cold. Disappointing, but it's still been a blast to drive, when I can make it to work.
Drew

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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:58 am

Does the FitEV have any sort of pack heater(s)? I thought no... but to me it seems like a no-brainer to use *some* heating measure while charging/connected to at least keep the pack temperatures up somewhat.
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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:01 am

No heating, no cooling. Those with heated garages are doing OK, but those of us leaving it outside are hurting in the single digit and sub-zero temps.

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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:05 am

JeremyW wrote:Does the FitEV have any sort of pack heater(s)? I thought no... but to me it seems like a no-brainer to use *some* heating measure while charging/connected to at least keep the pack temperatures up somewhat.
No pack heater, only air cooling. FEV range suffers from small battery (~18kWh usable at 70°), resistive heating element, and reliance on efficient regen that is absent in colder temps. Not much of an issue in California target market, but a real handicap in cold Northeast.
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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:15 am

Drew, where in the NE are you? Could you list it in your settings?

Glad to read this, might have considered a FEV, if they ever sell them here. Maybe newer models will be better.
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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:37 am

Just did. I'm in Orange County, NY.

All in all I love the FEV, but the range loss has been disappointing. One owner reported that his dealer said there is some kind of battery insulation that will be installed in a recall in the spring. No confirmation on this, though. I'm happy to be a guinea pig in the cold weather! I couldn't resist the lease deal and I got in before the waiting lists got insane. Hopefully, Honda is serious about EVs, although that's questionable, and we're not even going to see the Fit hybrid in the US. It's only a 3 year lease and I expect the EV choices should be interesting when my lease is up.

Drew

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Re: Offcial Honda Fit EV Thread (lease only)

Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:06 pm

KeiJidosha wrote:
JeremyW wrote:Does the FitEV have any sort of pack heater(s)? I thought no... but to me it seems like a no-brainer to use *some* heating measure while charging/connected to at least keep the pack temperatures up somewhat.
No pack heater, only air cooling. FEV range suffers from small battery (~18kWh usable at 70°), resistive heating element, and reliance on efficient regen that is absent in colder temps. Not much of an issue in California target market, but a real handicap in cold Northeast.
Things do not look good for the i3, which was designed similar to this... well there is TMS but how good will it keep out the cold!? The BEV version has a heat pump (standard in the US I think?) but the Rex version doesn't...
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