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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:36 am

Man that is really bad. I don't live in a mountainous area but I still wouldn't touch it on account of resale and the reputation this thing is going to acquire.
Yet again we see it looks like GM isn't so dumb after all.
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:25 pm

There were touting early on how it would qualify for the white sticker...
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TomT wrote:All this crap and they didn't get a white sticker anyway!
It was done to get gold credits- not some stickers.
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:08 pm

Well, the problem is easily fixed by a firmware flash - but will they fix it?

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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:24 pm

drees wrote:Well, the problem is easily fixed by a firmware flash - but will they fix it?
Yes, after a lawsuit is filed for accidents.
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:31 pm

edatoakrun wrote:I've posted previously why an only ~25 kW range extending generator that the driver cannot select until the battery is near depletion would not provide satisfactory (or even safe) performance in mountainous areas.
Hmm... guess they didn't test the REX in that state with few BEV sales (California). :o Oh well, back to the drawing board.
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:56 pm

I received a BMW i3 brochure in snail mail today.

On one of the pages, it says "100 MILES PER 0 GALLONS" and it mentions "up to 110 miles* on a single charge.
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*BMW i3 range of 70-110 miles based on BMW NA test results of real-world driving"

Great... Remember that the i3 is EPA rated at 81 miles, which is less than the current Leaf: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do? ... 8&id=32154" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:30 am

Ther is a lot to like about the i3 but I predict that the I3 Rex will be recalled at some point because it is unable to maintain a safe speed on the Rex. Ther will be complaints and maybe the software I'll be changed somehow.

It's just not a safe situation.
Many other cars have been recalled because they slow or stop unexpectedly.
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:29 am

Since the only reason to program the Rex to operate as it does in the U.S. was to get a California White Sticker, and it wound up not qualifying for it anyway, there is no reason not to reprogram it using the EU software calibration... I think the larger problem is, though, that the Rex is simply way underpowered.
kmp647 wrote:Ther is a lot to like about the i3 but I predict that the I3 Rex will be recalled at some point because it is unable to maintain a safe speed on the Rex
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:38 am

My son and I test drove the i3 yesterday. Drove very well, very zippy on the surface streets here. Of course our test drive was no more than 5 miles all on surface streets. I would have liked to take it on the highway, but i didn't ask. Field of vision was very good. A great car for city drive, for taking off from a stop light and switching lanes around. Doesn't look that bad at all in person, compared to all the videos I have seen,

But the things that I feared were more or less confirmed during my test drive. It is essentially a two door car, but more easier to get in and out of the back seat. In a typical two door car the driver/front passenger has to get out, slide/fold the seats to let people in. In the i3 you need to open the front doors for the back doors to be opened, and hold the front doors open until the back doors are closed. So it is a step up from a two door car in terms of ergonomics, but far removed from a regular 4 door sedan. The back seats are tiny just like a coupe.

But the real downer is the out of the door price for a ReX model - $50K. The non-ReX model is around $4K less, but that doesn't help solve the range anxiety problem, so it is a non-starter.

I simply cannot justify $50K (or $40K with Fed and Texas rebate). The lease price though was beyond ridiculous, which came to around $700+
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Re: Official BMW i3 thread

Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:10 pm

TomT wrote:Since the only reason to program the Rex to operate as it does in the U.S. was to get a California White Sticker, and it wound up not qualifying for it anyway, there is no reason not to reprogram it using the EU software calibration...
I thought that the reason the Rex is programmed to operate the way it does is so that the car can qualify for more ZEV credits.

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