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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:47 pm

SanDust wrote:From what I've read the standard i3 in the US will have a range extender.
Wrong. It will be an option in the US - but will be available right from the start instead of being available later (like it was hinted a while back).
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:20 pm

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SanDust wrote:From what I've read the standard i3 in the US will have a range extender.
Wrong. It will be an option in the US - but will be available right from the start instead of being available later (like it was hinted a while back).
Correct, it will definitely be optional. However the vast majority of US bound i3's will have the option. BMW expects 80%+ of the buyers will want it. Of course if they are wrong they'll adjust and ship more BEV i3's here. I do believe that initially at least, the REx take will be very high.
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:02 pm

TomMoloughney wrote:Correct, it will definitely be optional. However the vast majority of US bound i3's will have the option. BMW expects 80%+ of the buyers will want it. Of course if they are wrong they'll adjust and ship more BEV i3's here. I do believe that initially at least, the REx take will be very high.
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Do you know whether BMW is working with state legislatures to add BEVx to sales tax exemption ? I think NJ & WA have sales tax exemption for BEV, but not PHEVs.
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:22 pm

From ABG:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/08/bmw- ... uary-2014/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:25 pm

evnow wrote:
TomMoloughney wrote:Correct, it will definitely be optional. However the vast majority of US bound i3's will have the option. BMW expects 80%+ of the buyers will want it. Of course if they are wrong they'll adjust and ship more BEV i3's here. I do believe that initially at least, the REx take will be very high.
Tom,

Do you know whether BMW is working with state legislatures to add BEVx to sales tax exemption ? I think NJ & WA have sales tax exemption for BEV, but not PHEVs.
I know this was on their radar, but really can't say if they are specifically trying to get an exemption. Unfortunately I'm not optimistic they would be successful. It's clear the tax exclusions were for zero emission vehicles and with the REx the car is clearly no longer a ZEV. My guess is that they are working with the states to try to get an exclusion, but that it may take a while to get them to change the law. A lot will depend on how California classifies it (BEVx or what) because typicality others follow. If BMW can get CA to give it a specific distinction BEVx or ??, which allows basically all the special treatment ZEV's get(tax incentives, HOV access, etc) then BMW can use that to lobby the other states. I just don't think it will happen quick enough for us to enjoy. If I hear anything on this, I'll let you know.
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:33 pm

GRA wrote:From ABG:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/08/bmw- ... uary-2014/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If this pricing is true: $34,500 for base i3 & $2,000 extra for REx, then I expect BMW to sell a lot of them
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:35 pm

GRA wrote:From ABG:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/08/bmw- ... uary-2014/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link, GRA. I hope that the pricing into is accurate, some of the other info is plain wrong (especially that ActiveE has a range extender ???...)
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:36 pm

I can't see what it would (or should) have any different treatment than any other PHEV...
evnow wrote:Do you know whether BMW is working with state legislatures to add BEVx to sales tax exemption ? I think NJ & WA have sales tax exemption for BEV, but not PHEVs.
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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:41 pm

I3 and I8 spotted being tested on US-395 north of Mojave desert. 110 degree heat. There were a couple of I3s and one I8. Only managed to snap a picture of the last I3 and what appears to be a variant of the "range extender" option just behind it :)

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Re: Official BMW I3, I8 / megacity EV thread

Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:26 pm

TomMoloughney wrote:
GRA wrote:From ABG:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/08/bmw- ... uary-2014/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If this pricing is true: $34,500 for base i3 & $2,000 extra for REx, then I expect BMW to sell a lot of them
If those prices were correct (which I doubt) and all the rest of the specs listed were accurate, it would likely put the I3 ahead of any other replacement candidate for my 2011 LEAF, to be available in the next few years.

But I'd still wait for some of the SAE DC's to show up before I'd buy.

And I'd still have to see one close-up, as from the photos I've seen so far, the I3 may, IMO, also actually surpass the LEAF in the "homely" category...
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