mrdcmills
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110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:00 pm

Why not have a male 110v on the car so we don't have to deal with the "brick" like my laptop.

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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:04 pm

Safety.

P.S. There are oodles of threads arguing this exact issue.
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:10 pm

mrdcmills wrote:Why not have a male 110v on the car so we don't have to deal with the "brick" like my laptop.
I think this has been discussed before. And I tend to agree. But I believe safety and lawsuit prevention probably played a large part of that decision.
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:48 pm

Safety and law suits? Maybe, but note that Tesla model S allows users to plug in directly to 120/240 VAC.
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:02 pm

ebill3 wrote:Safety and law suits? Maybe, but note that Tesla model S allows users to plug in directly to 120/240 VAC.
It comes with a dual voltage portable EVSE, the Model S UMC, supports 240 up to 40A via a 14-50 240V outlet (31MPH), you can also charge very slowly with a standard 120V outlet (5MPH)

A picture of the mobile connector can be seen here: http://www.teslamotors.com/models/charging#/outlet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also here is a PDF on it: http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/defaul ... _14-50.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:38 pm

ebill3 wrote:Safety and law suits? Maybe, but note that Tesla model S allows users to plug in directly to 120/240 VAC.
Not true! They use a proprietary EVSE.

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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:40 pm

I still think a 120v inlet could have worked.
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:41 pm

Ingineer wrote:
ebill3 wrote:Safety and law suits? Maybe, but note that Tesla model S allows users to plug in directly to 120/240 VAC.
Not true! They use a proprietary EVSE.

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For the Tesla Roadster with its 120V Spare Mobile Connector cable there is no intermediate EVSE. The pilot signal line is connected to GND when you slide the switch on the proprietary barrel connector. That "signals" the OBC to default to 15A. On the touchscreen you can "dial down" to 12A if desired.
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Re: 110v Charger on board

Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:47 am

smkettner wrote:I still think a 120v inlet could have worked.
Done is done for now.

So could some bare clips. For a long time you have been advocating an unsafe system that would quickly fail and need replacing. Even taking safety aside your idea has been proven to fail, I have seen it fail over and over and the new methods are better in every respect. It is done and it is better. I'm sure some people still yearn for 8-track players as well :lol:

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Re: 110v Charger on board

Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:06 am

What exactly is the safety issue of having the brick mounted in the vehicle?

Nothing is more confounding than the 12" leader that just begs for an extention cord that is not allowed.
At least the Germans got that part right allowing close to 2 meters.

I never did like 8 track with the split songs and large gaps. Bulky also. Never actually owned one though.
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