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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:38 pm

Well after the Nissan eMail I got today, it might not be bad to start planning on patience for deliveries. And I am an 8/31 order! I mean, I am all for caution during the North American roll out but this is starting to seem more like benign neglect. I wonder how many cars were delivered in Japan starting today???

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/nissa ... 28569.html

Here is the part of this link that floored me! -

"Nissan plans to sell some 6,000 units of the Leaf on the local market by the end of the fiscal 2010 ending 31 March, 2011. The numbers registered in the pre-ordering process which started back in April show that the respective target is well within reach."

Are I reading this correctly??? This sounds like completed LEAF deliveries and would be about 2000 a month. I though 6000 was the entire LEAF order book for the Japanese market???
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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:06 pm

garygid wrote:What has to happen?
Nissan has to decide to GO, GO, GO!

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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:14 pm

TRONZ wrote:Well after the Nissan eMail I got today, it might not be bad to start planning on patience for deliveries. And I am an 8/31 order! I mean, I am all for caution during the North American roll out but this is starting to seem more like benign neglect. I wonder how many cars were delivered in Japan starting today???

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/nissa ... 28569.html

Here is the part of this link that floored me! -

"Nissan plans to sell some 6,000 units of the Leaf on the local market by the end of the fiscal 2010 ending 31 March, 2011. The numbers registered in the pre-ordering process which started back in April show that the respective target is well within reach."

Are I reading this correctly??? This sounds like completed LEAF deliveries and would be about 2000 a month. I though 6000 was the entire LEAF order book for the Japanese market???
I'm not sure those facts are correct - didn't we hear from our Japanese speaking board member that Japan was just opening up the order process in December? I too would be floored if Nissan accepted *and delivered* 6000 orders in Japan within 3 months. I'd think this should really mean 6000 orders taken - rather then 6000 delivered. It would, however, explain why we aren't seeing anything here.

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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:33 pm

I heard US deliveries are slow because

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:42 pm

I hope it is just 6000 orders TO BE taken! I did find it interesting that the first Japanese deliveries were already being set before the end of this year. If so, this is a VERY fast conversion from Order to Delivery!
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:37 am

LakeLeaf wrote:So as it looks at present, it appears there will be several handfuls of Leafs delivered in the next few weeks. After that - maybe a few handfuls more in Feb - even those being unconfirmed?

But then are we looking at almost no deliveries until the end of the Summer - or do we think that every few weeks a dozen or more cars will make their way to customers?
What possible logic would there be for a six month gap with no deliveries? Surely end-of-summer delivers could apply, at worst, only to people who have not yet ordered. We know that there must be hundreds (*) of people who ordered in September or early October and who still have a Pending delivery date. Are you really suggesting that most of those will have to wait nearly a year to get their LEAF?

(*) We have about 80 people listed on our spreadsheet who ordered in September or early October and who still have a Pending delivery date. Based on VINs that have been assigned the spreadsheet covers only 30% of the earliest deliveries. It will certainly cover a considerably lower percentage of the people who do not yet have a delivery date. That would mean a minimum of 300 people - probably many more - that you are consigning to the hell of waiting eleven months or longer after their order date.

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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:54 am

Nissan Customer Service told me not to believe what I read on this site. On the other in October they told me that I would probably get delivery in February. From what I am now reading here I wonder if there is any point to my order with a date of December 1. I was part of the roll-out of the Prius, received the car in August 2000, and it was straightforward and open. Right now I am souring on Nissan which seems to have little regard for its most enthusiastic supporters. The only reason that I am not cancelling is because all this negativity may be false and I will get delivery before the beginning of summer.

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Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:49 am

what exactly is the factory capacity? i thought it was around 50,000??

that is 4,000 a month. if that is the case and builds have been going since October. i would assume a slow start, but we may have 2-3000 in inventory right now. that would be enough to put out 6,000 to them, 6,000 to us.

now their market will not keep pace. its simply too small. so after the first quarter, domestic sales may slow down allowing the excess to the European market keeping us at 2,000 a month.

i guess i dont see a problem with making the Japanese demand and the the 20,000 US allotment met
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Re: I would be happy if nissan wasn't keeping us in the dark

Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:26 am

I have been trying to make this case for the last month or longer. I am in the 8/31 confirmed order group and my Leaf Dashboard says "February Delivery." This after 3 months of assurances directly from their "customer service" phone people that orders in August would arrive by December ("3-4 months after ordering...").

Basically I have (at least somewhat) given up on believing ANYTHING I see or hear from Nissan corporate about the US Delivery Schedule. Those of you on this forum that are excited about the token deliveries made already and cutting Nissan slack for your own delays are simply "better people than I am."

More forgiving for sure.

I am still waiting and do expect to accept delivery on my Leaf, but if there was ANY OTHER real choice....I would walk away from this corporate insensitivity and misrepresentation we have been presented. I have replaced our family cars every 2-3 years for the past 30 years; I have ordered and owned Acura, Audi, BMW, Honda, Infinit, Lexus, Mazda, Toyota and VW, and I have NEVER had such poor buying feedback or service before. Please note that I have NEVER owned a Nissan before, and this experience is doing NOTHING to endear Nissan to me. Our experience with getting an early introduction Infiniti when they first debuted on the American market was incredible, however; further note that I have not listed ANY U.S. car company. My last "American car" was a specifically ordered new 1969 Olds 442 and when that started to have pieces falling off in the first two weeks....

I would further note that I am also waiting for an early delivery of the Chevy Volt. I now have a VIN for my ordered Volt and it is #679 coming off the production line near Detroit. The tracking and feedback process on the Volt, from GM of all sources, is 100 TIMES more informative than what I am getting from Nissan...and my Leaf order was in the "first day 200" that Nissan accepted.

YIKES !

No real information from Nissan for the delay, no apologies and only a token t-shirt mailer...I hope more of you are not being "bought off" so easily.

On the other hand, have a WONDERFUL HOLIDAY SEASON and perhaps we should just hunker down and enjoy our families and forget about this "new tech car business, at least for a week or so?"

George in W. Sacramento (now moving forward on my chargepoint install via the free unit courtesy of my Volt order)

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