DaveinOlyWA
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:51 am

Since braking or coming to a stop is not required to shift, I prefer to shift in the direction of travel which is how the LEAF shifter is set up so your contention that it is wrong is simply...wrong.
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dmacarthur
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:01 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:51 am
Since braking or coming to a stop is not required to shift, I prefer to shift in the direction of travel which is how the LEAF shifter is set up so your contention that it is wrong is simply...wrong.
My Leafs have all had Reverse in the forward position, and D in the backward position, so not sure how that is the direction of travel? I can get used to anything, it was a previous poster who changed his Leaf......
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:57 pm

dmacarthur wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:01 pm
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:51 am
Since braking or coming to a stop is not required to shift, I prefer to shift in the direction of travel which is how the LEAF shifter is set up so your contention that it is wrong is simply...wrong.
My Leafs have all had Reverse in the forward position, and D in the backward position, so not sure how that is the direction of travel? I can get used to anything, it was a previous poster who changed his Leaf......
You are in reverse. To shift to forward, pull in the direction of travel which would be back.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 14,342.8 mi, 93.16% SOH
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dmacarthur
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:24 am

Current theory: It stems from the Model A (which has reverse forward and first gear forward back) and has continued since.....Jeeps, three on the trees.. alll floor-shifting automatics have reverse forward and forward back. Too much baggage to try to change now.....
My Kubota tractor has reverse backward and forward forward- tractors evidently are not governed by convention but rather by intuition.
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Nubo
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:56 am

dmacarthur wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:24 am
Current theory: It stems from the Model A (which has reverse forward and first gear forward back) and has continued since.....Jeeps, three on the trees.. alll floor-shifting automatics have reverse forward and forward back. Too much baggage to try to change now.....
My Kubota tractor has reverse backward and forward forward- tractors evidently are not governed by convention but rather by intuition.
Intuition varies I guess. My intuition comes from scooters and bikes; to go backwards I have to thrust forward and vice-versa.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

dmacarthur
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:00 am

Nubo wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:56 am
dmacarthur wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:24 am
Current theory: It stems from the Model A (which has reverse forward and first gear forward back) and has continued since.....Jeeps, three on the trees.. alll floor-shifting automatics have reverse forward and forward back. Too much baggage to try to change now.....
My Kubota tractor has reverse backward and forward forward- tractors evidently are not governed by convention but rather by intuition.
Intuition varies I guess. My intuition comes from scooters and bikes; to go backwards I have to thrust forward and vice-versa.
Intuition has not helped me much when backing up on a bike! But I accept the scooter analogy.....
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AlGrsn
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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:33 am

Combustion engined automatic transmission vehicles have had reverse forward or up next to P since the federal government mandated the selector sequence to P-R-N-D-X-X in 1965-66.

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Re: LEAF's Shifter Knob is backwards

Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:44 pm

Jaguar I-Pace did it correctly. Very pleased. Just makes so much more sense.

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