EXACTLY!!!!!! I'm sure a lot more people are confused by pushing it forward to go backward and vice-versa than there will be people who say 'Gee, the 1960's European sports cars had reverse left and up and first left and down so that is what I want on every car I own in my lifetime.Azrich wrote:But why can't the LEAF be different, more intuitive?All cars with a center gearshift are "backwards".
They won't, it is functional as designed. However, I (stupidly) hope the Gen II will consider many of the suggestions they will get. They are already 'out of the box' with the first mass production EV. No one buying this car in the first few years will be the "it has to be as much like my last 'x' cars as possible because I can't deal with change" type.LTLFTcomposite wrote:Every time I see one of these threads where people think this or that should be improved I start to worry somebody from Nissan will see it and decide to slip the schedule redesigning stuff.
Why would your hand be on it when you accelerate? YOU NEVER TOUCH it except to switch between forward and reverse. Really bad reason. Ever drive a boat? You push the throttle lever FORWARD to go forward and BACKWARD to go backward. AND your hand IS on it because it is both the gear shift AND the fuel flow controller.EVDRIVER wrote:The direction is that of the matching inertia of the vehicle. It actually is intuitive, if your hand is on it when you accel you don't want to pull it into reverse.
I disagree.Yanquetino wrote:Because it is now "intuitive" for drivers to use the same shifting directions that they have been using for many, many years. If Nissan switched 'R'everse and 'D'rive on the Leaf, I am willing to bet that most new buyers, out of habit, would end up lurching backwards when they wanted to go forward, and vice-versa.Azrich wrote:But why can't the LEAF be different, more intuitive?
If I were to buy one, I would seriously consider figuring out a way to flip itIf you can find any vehicle that flip-flops "R" and "D", please post a link to the photo!
Actually, it is on the dash between the steering wheel and the display. In the way given its size. It is a vertical implementation of the floor mounted auto.mitch672 wrote:BTW, the Gen 1 Prius has the shifter on the steering column, old school (it was a mechanical linkage)
I cannot figure why Nissan even put that bulky shifter in the console.ttweed wrote:That doesn't bother me at all. The shifter is well-marked and it will become second nature in a short time to pull it back to go forward, IMHO. Driving this car will be so different than others that we will be learning a lot of new habits. Besides, it is not counter-intuitive to me to pull back to go forward, as this is how upshifts are accomplished in my sequential-shifting race car.evnow wrote: We have discussed this before - may be in April. Esp. the idea of pushing the shifter back to move forward ! They should change the paradigm in gen 2 ...