Tokyotony
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Longer range option

Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:58 am

At the moment Nissan Leaf says the Leaf will have 100 miles (160km) driving range or a few miles more which depends on driving conditions. Do you think it would be nice if Nissan could add more range (extra battery or larger battery pack) as an option at the dealership?

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Re: Longer range option

Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:18 am

According to one article that I've seen, Nissan may have 1.5-2x the range in the cars that hit the streets in 2012.

They've had LiIon EVs on the road since the late 1990s (Altra) and own 51% of their battery company (49% NEC). I don't know another car company that has their own battery capability. I wouldn't be at all surprised if 100 miles range per the LA4 drive cycle isn't the shortest ranged variant of the car. ;)

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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:15 pm

I would be more than happy to give up that pit area in the rear hatch for a larger battery pack. all the other SUV's that are like the layout of the 5 door "Leaf" don't have a pit. whether its because of the gas tank or spare tire there is no room for one. i'm sure they could make a "either/or" bracket system and heavy duty plug that could make it an option.
if its only a 50mile pack 2 guys might be able to lift it out and only install it for longer trips when needed. or just stop in a rental store on there way out of town. i really believe an extra 50 miles would give most people the comfort zone to remove "range anxiety" from the concerns of owning a "Leaf".

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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:58 pm

portableal wrote:I would be more than happy to give up that pit area in the rear hatch for a larger battery pack. all the other SUV's that are like the layout of the 5 door "Leaf" don't have a pit. whether its because of the gas tank or spare tire there is no room for one. i'm sure they could make a "either/or" bracket system and heavy duty plug that could make it an option.
if its only a 50mile pack 2 guys might be able to lift it out and only install it for longer trips when needed. or just stop in a rental store on there way out of town. i really believe an extra 50 miles would give most people the comfort zone to remove "range anxiety" from the concerns of owning a "Leaf".
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:04 pm

Tokyotony wrote:At the moment Nissan Leaf says the Leaf will have 100 miles (160km) driving range or a few miles more which depends on driving conditions. Do you think it would be nice if Nissan could add more range (extra battery or larger battery pack) as an option at the dealership?
Either faster (6.6 kW) onboard charging, or a higher capacity pack would have been great options for those willing to pay a premium.

Honestly, I'm just glad they got the base model out, though. There are endless upgrade options, right?

The Infiniti model is supposed to have a 31 kWh (150 mile LA-4) battery and be somehow compatible with the LEAF platform. What exactly they mean by that, however, remains to be seen.
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:07 pm

Scaling from the current 24Kw "100 mile" pack, a 12Kw "50 mile" extension would weigh somewhere around 350 pounds... Considering what it would have to cost, I don't see it being practical.
portableal wrote:I would be more than happy to give up that pit area in the rear hatch for a larger battery pack. all the other SUV's that are like the layout of the 5 door "Leaf" don't have a pit. whether its because of the gas tank or spare tire there is no room for one. i'm sure they could make a "either/or" bracket system and heavy duty plug that could make it an option.
if its only a 50mile pack 2 guys might be able to lift it out and only install it for longer trips when needed. or just stop in a rental store on there way out of town. i really believe an extra 50 miles would give most people the comfort zone to remove "range anxiety" from the concerns of owning a "Leaf".
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:12 pm

Unless the Infinity version is far lighter and/or much more aerodynamic, I don't see how they can produce a 50 percent increase in range with only a 29 percent increase in pack capacity...
richard wrote:The Infiniti model is supposed to have a 31 kWh (150 mile LA-4) battery and be somehow compatible with the LEAF platform. What exactly they mean by that, however, remains to be seen.
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:53 pm

There is plenty of room in the empty area below the trunk storage space for an additional smaller pack (where they should have put the charger, instead of behind the rear seats). There or in the trunk would be great spots for batteries. I would buy an upgraded pack or an additional extended range pack in a minute if given the option.
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:21 pm

If the LEAF drivetrain was put in a Prius body, that would improve highway range by 10% or more - it's CdA is about 15% lower than the LEAF. That combined with about 20% more battery capacity would give people true 100 mi freeway range rather than low-mid 70 miles.

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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:20 am

Nissan should think about offering an emergency battery pack that could give 10 to 25 miles that you could put in your trunk and easily plug in to a receptacle if needed. One would only need to carry it around on trips where range might be an issue. It would be a great extra option.

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