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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:40 am

There is a third party mfr working on range extenders for the Leaf, using a pack that would fit in the rear. I heard this last night from the owner of a PHEV conversion company, I can't say any more than this for now. I'm sure we will hear about the product when they are ready to announce it.
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Re: Longer range option

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:41 am

I don't know where Richard got the 31kWH pack figure from. But I've also heard 150 miles LA4 / 100 miles RW (real world) for the Infiniti EV.

You may have missed it in the LEAF Limo thread, but I asked the folks from Liberty Electric if they'd give consideration to marketing the extender pack they're developing for the limo, if aftermarket demand was sufficient and any technical limitations could be overcome. They seemed quite willing to consider the possibility.
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:23 am

portableal wrote:I would be more than happy to give up that pit area in the rear hatch for a larger battery pack. all the other SUV's that are like the layout of the 5 door "Leaf" don't have a pit. whether its because of the gas tank or spare tire there is no room for one. i'm sure they could make a "either/or" bracket system and heavy duty plug that could make it an option.
if its only a 50mile pack 2 guys might be able to lift it out and only install it for longer trips when needed. or just stop in a rental store on there way out of town. i really believe an extra 50 miles would give most people the comfort zone to remove "range anxiety" from the concerns of owning a "Leaf".
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:30 am

mitch672 wrote:There is a third party mfr working on range extenders for the Leaf, using a pack that would fit in the rear. I heard this last night from the owner of a PHEV conversion company, I can't say any more than this for now. I'm sure we will hear about the product when they are ready to announce it.
Perfect except one thing. Being a 3rd party one would be concerned how it would affect the warranty on the main battery pack. If Nissan sold and installed/warranted it, that would be much more palatable. IMHO an aftermarket 'extender pack' will be a good buy once the battery warranty has run out and folks either want extended range and/or to replenish lost battery capacity.
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:20 am

JPWhite wrote:
mitch672 wrote:There is a third party mfr working on range extenders for the Leaf, using a pack that would fit in the rear. I heard this last night from the owner of a PHEV conversion company, I can't say any more than this for now. I'm sure we will hear about the product when they are ready to announce it.
Perfect except one thing. Being a 3rd party one would be concerned how it would affect the warranty on the main battery pack. If Nissan sold and installed/warranted it, that would be much more palatable. IMHO an aftermarket 'extender pack' will be a good buy once the battery warranty has run out and folks either want extended range and/or to replenish lost battery capacity.
Warranties are often offered because they will never be used. I would be interested in a range extender now, for a once a week use.
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:29 am

JPWhite wrote: Perfect except one thing. Being a 3rd party one would be concerned how it would affect the warranty on the main battery pack.
Its range fear or warranty fear :) .. btw, that "pit" in the hatch area IS your cargo space, but you could pack a large battery there.. who knows?.. Nissan may offer it one day.

An Enginer type pack installation could be made undetectable from a warranty point of view.

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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:02 am

Herm wrote:...An Enginer type pack installation could be made undetectable from a warranty point of view.
How? Wouldn't there have to be some sort of obvious connection spliced into car's cables somewhere? How about codes recorded by the car's data recorder?
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:17 am

Caracalover wrote: Warranties are often offered because they will never be used. I would be interested in a range extender now, for a once a week use.
While it true that warranties are seldom needed, the price of a battery pack is considerable. That's a big financial risk to take. I too would welcome a range extender battery pack, but not if I could face a five figure bill should the unlikely failure of the battery pack actually happen.
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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:01 am

dgpcolorado wrote:How? Wouldn't there have to be some sort of obvious connection spliced into car's cables somewhere? How about codes recorded by the car's data recorder?
Codes is a possibility, but you can use a dummy harness if you dont want to permanently modify your existing harness.. finding the connectors may be hard with an early production car.

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Re: Longer range option

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:32 am

JPWhite wrote:
Caracalover wrote: Warranties are often offered because they will never be used. I would be interested in a range extender now, for a once a week use.
While it true that warranties are seldom needed, the price of a battery pack is considerable. That's a big financial risk to take. I too would welcome a range extender battery pack, but not if I could face a five figure bill should the unlikely failure of the battery pack actually happen.
The other issue with these sort of aftermarket products is usually the sunk costs in installation services. ~$1000 is probably how much I'd expect given the complexity for these implementations.

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