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I heard about this story from another source but hadn't seen the tweet (w/video) until now.

A COVID scare trapped 33,000 visitors inside Shanghai Disneyland in a ‘surreal’ scene
https://fortune.com/2021/11/01/shanghai-disneyland-covid-case-test-lockdown-china-delta-outbreak/
https://twitter.com/BeimengFu/status/1454835251818205187?s=20
 
I wonder why Fortune chose to put "surreal" in quotes? Are there not enough words in the English language and they felt they had to settle for one that didn't quite fit?
 
Anti-vaccine Christian broadcaster Marcus Lamb dies after Covid battle
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/marcus-lamb-anti-vaccine-christian-broadcaster-dies-covid-battle-rcna7139
Marcus Lamb, a co-founder and the CEO of the conservative Christian Daystar Television Network who vocally opposed Covid-19 vaccines, has died at 64, weeks after he contracted Covid-19, the network said.
 
cwerdna said:
Anti-vaccine Christian broadcaster Marcus Lamb dies after Covid battle
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/marcus-lamb-anti-vaccine-christian-broadcaster-dies-covid-battle-rcna7139
Marcus Lamb, a co-founder and the CEO of the conservative Christian Daystar Television Network who vocally opposed Covid-19 vaccines, has died at 64, weeks after he contracted Covid-19, the network said.

I saw that.

Add that to the list such as Conservative radio hosts Dick Farrell, Phil Valentine and Marc Bernier, who were unvaccinated, and all died after they contracted Covid.

We also recently had two high school students pass away in my town from complications with Covid. I do not know if they were vaccinated. But rather than generate sympathy, I noticed many of the anti Vax folks on Facebook poured hostility and FUD toward the two and their families and the news. Really shameful. And then they immediately resumed posting the usual FUD about the vaccines.
 
The NYT recently had a story about how pro-vaccine people have been attacking those anti-vaccers recently deceased from COVID - and their families - on social media. I understand the schadenfreude, but it's counterproductive, and just plain wrong in the case of the families.
 
^+1. My son just recovered from a (fairly mild) case of COVID and he was vaccinated. More than anything it was embarrassing for him - and also very bad timing since we had a huge crew at our house for Thanksgiving and he couldn't spend much time with his cousins, etc since he had to stay outside (he was still in his quarantine period).

I can't imagine how it would feel to have some idiots berating him about getting COVID, or much less, how I would feel if his case wasn't mild.
 
From https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1201-omicron-variant.html
The California and San Francisco Departments of Public Health have confirmed that a recent case of COVID-19 among an individual in California was caused by the Omicron variant (B.1.1.529). The individual was a traveler who returned from South Africa on November 22, 2021. The individual had mild symptoms that are improving, is self-quarantining and has been since testing positive. All close contacts have been contacted and have tested negative.

Genomic sequencing was conducted at the University of California, San Francisco and the sequence was confirmed at CDC as being consistent with the Omicron variant. This will be the first confirmed case of COVID-19 caused by the Omicron variant detected in the United States.
 
Some South African doctor was on the news. She seemed to be saying that all of the Omicron cases she's witnessed have been "mild" as she put it. She was rambling though and the interviewer didn't do anything to gather her thoughts into a coherent whole. So I'm not sure if she had anything definite to say on the overall virulence of Omicron compared to other strains. If it were less deadly but more transmissible maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing?
 
The early data do seem to indicate that the Omicron variant is less deadly but also very contagious.

Is that a good thing? I'm no expert but the more transmissions the virus goes through the more mutations there will be. It may mutate into something benign or it may mutate into something catastrophic or anything in between. Previous corona viruses have done both.

Since it appears that the world at large won't be able to eradicate this virus (even though technologically I'd say it is possible) we'll just have to hope for the best.
 
goldbrick said:
The early data do seem to indicate that the Omicron variant is less deadly but also very contagious.
I vaguely remember hearing something saying that was the usual case as mutations happen: generally becoming less deadly but more contagious.
 
jlv said:
goldbrick said:
The early data do seem to indicate that the Omicron variant is less deadly but also very contagious.
I vaguely remember hearing something saying that was the usual case as mutations happen: generally becoming less deadly but more contagious.

Maybe because, before the advent of modern medicine, someone with mild symptoms would be far more likely to stick to his/her routines and thereby come into contact with far more people (be a super spreader) than someone who is feeling bad enough to go to bed and "ride it out" in isolation. Also, other people would be more likely to distance themselves from someone who is visibly sick.

So, my guess is that viruses that spread mild disease rapidly have a competitive advantage over other strains for those reasons. Also, dead hosts can't get reinfected, so there's less opportunity for the virus to become endemic if it causes severe illness.
 
Someone at work posted https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/28/3/21-2318_article ("Airborne Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant within Tightly Monitored Isolation Facility, New Zealand (Aotearoa)") which I just began skimming.

Abstract
In New Zealand, international arrivals are quarantined and undergo severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 screening; those who test positive are transferred to a managed isolation facility (MIF). Solo traveler A and person E from a 5-person travel group (BCDEF) tested positive. After transfer to the MIF, person A and group BCDEF occupied rooms >2 meters apart across a corridor. Persons B, C, and D subsequently tested positive; viral sequences matched A and were distinct from E. The MIF was the only shared location of persons A and B, C, and D, and they had no direct contact. Security camera footage revealed 4 brief episodes of simultaneous door opening during person A’s infectious period. This public health investigation demonstrates transmission from A to B, C, and D while in the MIF, with airborne transmission the most plausible explanation. These findings are of global importance for coronavirus disease public health interventions and infection control practices.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/30/health/new-zealand-covid-facility-transmission/index.html is easier to read.
 
Yuzhou: Second Chinese city forced into Covid lockdown
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59871325
China has put a second city into total lockdown after just three asymptomatic Covid cases were discovered.

Yuzhou - which has a population of 1.1 million - saw its transport system shut down and all but essential food stores closed overnight.

It follows a similar lockdown in Xi'an, where 13 million have been confined to their homes since 23 December.

The strict measures come ahead of the Lunar New Year and the Winter Olympics due to be held in Beijing.
 
The nuttiness w/a small set of Canadian truckers is now affecting auto production (e.g. https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/09/americas/canada-trucker-protests-covid-wednesday/index.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60293407), besides other trade.

https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/stellantis-production-hampered-lingering-bridge-blockade-between-us-and-canada
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-says-detroitwindsor-bridge-disruption-impacting-canadian-plants-2022-02-09/
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadian-authorities-scramble-end-anti-vaccine-mandate-protests-2022-02-09/
 
cwerdna said:
The nuttiness w/a small set of Canadian truckers is now affecting auto production (e.g. https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/09/americas/canada-trucker-protests-covid-wednesday/index.html and https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60293407), besides other trade.

https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/stellantis-production-hampered-lingering-bridge-blockade-between-us-and-canada
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-says-detroitwindsor-bridge-disruption-impacting-canadian-plants-2022-02-09/
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadian-authorities-scramble-end-anti-vaccine-mandate-protests-2022-02-09/

This craziness has also hit my former hometown of Port Huron Michigan which has an international bridge to Sarnia Ontario.

It is amazing in a very pathetic way that after 2 years, many still believe this is all some sort of conspiracy...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJvT0YAHsNs&t=1195s at around 19:56 has coverage of the lockdown in Shanghai.

I've visited there once in 2008 and wow, it is normally a crazy busy city.
 
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