As a reminder (which apparently was a response to Gale) was my reply at
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10233&p=576960&hilit=dmv#p576960.
Do take a look at the CA DMV autonomous vehicle disengagement reports for all the years at
https://web.archive.org/web/20190425134 ... us/testing for Tesla vs. say Waymo and Cruise Automation.
2019 at
https://web.archive.org/web/20200229140 ... eport_2019. Tesla for 2019 did a whopping 12.2 miles. Per
https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/ ... port-2019/, that year, Waymo did 1.4 million autonomous miles on CA roads w/a disengagement every 13,219 miles. This also assumes Baidu's results are bogus/totally suspect.
It's likely that Tesla is doing some of their on public road autonomous testing outside CA (thus not needed to report to CA DMV) but given Tesla's and Elon's style of hype, why can't they at least show they meet/exceed other known leaders in the space? Why won't they let reporters ride, film and report? How about the general public? How about a beta of a robotaxi like Waymo's been doing for years? It can start out closed w/NDAs and open up later, just like Waymo's done...
When Elon keeps making pronouncements then keeps missing them over and over, while others have already seemingly achieved his aspirations, it makes Elon's credibility in this space rather low and it leads to me to believe they're way behind the leaders + some others who aren't leaders.