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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:08 pm

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spike09 wrote:Here are a few pics I collected on Pinterest.

http://pinterest.com/spike09/electric-bicycles/

Nice! I particularly like the Polaris Vector and the Specialized. I'm partial to nicely integrated designs with the battery pack hidden within a tube.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:32 pm

Just for those who really want to torture themselves climbing hills on a bike :o :

http://www.bicycling.com/ride-maps/feat ... ibly-close" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:39 pm

GRA wrote:Just for those who really want to torture themselves climbing hills on a bike :o :

http://www.bicycling.com/ride-maps/feat ... ibly-close" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And after that, for those who want to picture themselves enjoying one of our world's paradises on an e-bike, this story put me right into that picture.

http://travel.nytimes.com/2011/08/28/tr ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:42 pm

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abasile wrote:The LEAF battery's relative intolerance for heat has been a blessing for my fitness level.
Yes, but how about your battery's heat tolerance? I must say, that is quite a feat. I have ridden in the mountains a few times (almost 40 years ago) including up to Big Bear the back way by Mill Creek Ranger station, and could not imagine doing it now, or doing it regularly back then.
Bicycling in the heat is something I am able to tolerate up to a certain point. If the temperature is 100°F when I leave work in the evening, then I reach my limit at roughly the 3000' level, no matter how much liquid I consume. Starting at 90°F, the 5000' level is do-able. The last time I bicycled all the way home, the starting temperature was closer to 80°F. Also, if I bike on consecutive days, then I scale back my climbing ambitions.

Now, bicycling to Big Bear Lake via CA-38 is much more impressive, as you have to crest Onyx Summit at 8400'. That would be a good goal for me, before I get too much older. ;-)

I have to admit, I'm still struggling with the notion of allowing myself to use electric assistance while biking, even though the options presented by Boomer23 are quite reasonable. The hybrid bicycle/LEAF commute isn't bad at all, as long as my wife is game for picking me up, which seems fair since she says she doesn't want me to spend $2000+ on an e-bike conversion.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:14 pm

abasile wrote:Now, bicycling to Big Bear Lake via CA-38 is much more impressive, as you have to crest Onyx Summit at 8400'. That would be a good goal for me, before I get too much older. ;-)
Yes, we rode about 85 miles in 11 hours, stayed in Lake Arrowhead with a friend. Hardest ride I have ever done (or ever will do). Late in the afternoon the smog started getting to us, even at that high elevation. Of course, that was around 1970 before there were really strong regulations on auto exhaust. That Onyx Summit is an absolute killer!
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:41 pm

Boomer23 wrote:
GRA wrote:Just for those who really want to torture themselves climbing hills on a bike :o :

http://www.bicycling.com/ride-maps/feat ... ibly-close" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And after that, for those who want to picture themselves enjoying one of our world's paradises on an e-bike, this story put me right into that picture.

http://travel.nytimes.com/2011/08/28/tr ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That sounds quite enjoyable, especially if accompanied by a significant other who doesn't think "no pain, no gain" is a reasonable attitude. ;) And the batteries are small enough to make battery storage for swapping feasible. Maybe Better Place needs to redo their business plan.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Just in case it's raining where you are and it's not good riding weather. :D




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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:29 pm

Since I got my Stromer, I've been riding most mornings, which is quite a change from my previous exercise frequency. But I began to realize that my preferred 45 minute ride with 250 to 300 feet of elevation gain only felt equivalent to a light workout on an exercycle at the gym. So I resolved to challenge myself more today. I set the pedal-assist to the lowest level for most of the ride, with additional assist for only the steepest of hills, so I was working harder. This gave my legs a nice "burn" and the whole ride was a more satisfying workout. I still finished the ride in 40 minutes for 9.3 miles and kept an average of about 13.5 mph.

What's truly great about the e-bike is that the fun factor gets you out exercising more often, and you take on more challenging routes, which is also fun, and you can set the level of workout that you feel up to for any given day. But you also are "packing" a virtual supercharger that can get you out of any jam, such as a headwind, an unexpected hill due to a wrong turn, or dehydration/ fatigue. I'm hooked!
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:56 pm

AndyH wrote:Just in case it's raining where you are and it's not good riding weather. :D
Thanks for these great videos, Andy. I really enjoy watching Robert Llewellyn (being an Anglophile) and his Everyman approach to explaining the benefits of EVs makes the topic really accessible.

The first video accurately describes the fun factor of pedal-assist e-cycling, especially the surreal feeling of cycling uphill while your legs feel like you're on the flats, or even like you're going slightly downhill.

I liked that he went through the whole gamut of e-bike types, from a low powered folding bike up through the bigger bikes with throttle.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:56 pm

Just thought that I'd post an update that I'm still riding an hour a day, about 6 days a week, on my favorite hilly, scenic 10 mile route. I've adopted the discipline to keep the motor assist at the lowest of the four levels so that I get some decent exercise.

The last third of that route is down hill, so I've begun putting the controller in RECUP mode (regen braking) while going down steepish hills, and pedaling part of that distance to add regen and get more exercise. The regen is pretty minimal and it only adds 2% or so charge on a 10 minute downhill that would usually have me coasting at 20 mph or so.

The battery range is staying constant at about 45 miles with pedaling on flat ground at the lowest level of motor assist.
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