TomT wrote:I do love how you put words in people mouths, Andy...
1) Nowhere did I even allude to food prices...
I'll look at my response again - I had no intention if putting words into your mouth, but rather to respond to the thread as a whole. As I keep saying - I'm trying to highlight the sources of misinformation people treat as fact.
Looks like I mis-read your suggestion that ethanol increases 'fuel' price as 'food' price. Sorry. Yet, you have agreed with others in this thread about food prices, so you're not 100% off the hook here...
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... ow#p327937
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... ow#p318012
TomT wrote:2) Oxygenates have been shown to have negligible advantages on modern close-loop emission systems. I did say that on older open-loop and carbureted systems they did help but funny how that was ignored.
Care to cite a source for your position? I know your comment about the effects of oxygenated fuel on closed-loop systems is incorrect and that's the vast majority of vehicle hours. Oxygenated fuels (starting with those that included a percentage of MTBE) reduce production of CO.   
TomT wrote:3) Studies have shown that Ethanol actually increases the cost of fuel, particularly when you factor in the decreased fuel mileage and other tangible and intangible costs...
Your turn again - a source please? Here's one of many that says you might be under the influence of the API: http://theenergycollective.com/gcooperr ... gas-prices
On its face, the myth that adding ethanol to gasoline does not reduce gas prices defies economic logic and suspends market realities. By focusing attention on ethanol’s lower energy density and using trumped up calculations, Big Oil is ignoring the larger economic effects at play. Without ethanol, gasoline supplies would be considerably smaller, and significantly more expensive octane sources would be needed. As a result, gas prices for American drivers would be far higher. Let’s hope the American public and Congress continue to see through Big Oil’s big myths regarding the impact of ethanol and the RFS on pump prices.
TomT wrote:4) Your concept of "facts" and many others concept of facts are widely disparent...
You're welcome to your opinion. It's a lot easier to throw a rock than cite a source, though, isn't it?
Have a nice day. Now I'm going to go flying in an ethanol free 100LL avgas world...
Enjoy your flight. I hope, at the very least, you don't dump fuel samples on the ramp when you pre-flight? At least use a GATS jar or a collection can? GENAV has been in my family since the 1920s. As much as I love it, I quit exercising the privileges of my PPL because I can no longer justify spreading one of humanity's most potent neurotoxins  over people so I can reach out my hand and touch the face of God. Talk about 'oxymoron'...
Bring on AGE85.
 http://epa.gov/otaq/fuels/gasolinefuels ... /index.htm
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