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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:19 am

White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/13 ... 20192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics ... index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-m ... 25422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320 ... 62850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:41 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:19 am
White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/13 ... 20192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics ... index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-m ... 25422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320 ... 62850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU
This was easy to see coming months ago. When your public and self-image is entirely predicated on "always winning" the only possible response to failure is that the situation is unwinnable.

And of course milking American families for treatments and therapeutics is far more profitable than masks.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:40 pm

Group Burns Masks in Delray [Florida], Asks Governor to Override Local Mandate
https://www.foxsports640.com/group-burn ... l-mandate/

Some U.S. doctors flee to New Zealand where the coronavirus outbreak is under control and science is respected
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/coronav ... ected.html
A big part of the appeal for him is that New Zealand has started reopening schools, so Radecki’s kids can return to in-person education. It’s also an opportunity to experience a health-care system with universal coverage. “I’m happy to be working in a system that provides world-class care,” he said. “We spent more in the U.S., and our outcomes aren’t better, so I’ve been watching how they do it.”

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:36 pm
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospita ... rus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archi ... -19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/ ... -cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/ ... rus-cases/

El Paso issues curfew to help curb Covid-19 as cases surge and hospitals reach full capacity
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/us/el-pa ... index.html

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:31 am

cwerdna wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:19 am
White House has given up:
https://twitter.com/EricDKoch/status/13 ... 20192?s=20 (about 1.5 minute excerpt of interview w/Mark Meadows on CNN)

The below also report on this.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics ... index.html
https://www.yahoo.com/now/jake-tapper-m ... 25422.html

https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/1320 ... 62850?s=20 is about 5.5 minutes long and has the above clip but more of it...
Mark Meadows: “We’re not going to control the pandemic, we are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigations.”

Jake Tapper: “Why aren’t we going to get control of the pandemic?”

Meadows: “Because it is a contagious virus” #CNNSOTU
I don't see this as a change in direction; only opening up another chapter of lies, misdirection, and skirting...
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:45 am

^^^
On that note, here we go again:
Trump claims the worsening U.S. coronavirus outbreak is a ‘Fake News Media Conspiracy’ even as hospitalizations rise
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/26/coronav ... -rise.html

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:12 am

cwerdna wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:36 pm
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospita ... rus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archi ... -19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/ ... -cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/ ... rus-cases/
Meanwhile, I did hear about this in Utah over the weekend. Gee... good going!

‘Mom code’: Parents reportedly avoid testing kids to keep Utah COVID-19 numbers artificially low
https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/m ... ially-low/

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:10 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:45 am
^^^
On that note, here we go again:
Trump claims the worsening U.S. coronavirus outbreak is a ‘Fake News Media Conspiracy’ even as hospitalizations rise
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/26/coronav ... -rise.html
On Nov 4., topic will totally change
Indeed. Imagine how many things will get attention when we don't have to listen to his bloviations each day.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:42 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:12 am
cwerdna wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:51 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:36 pm
Heard about this on the news earlier tonight:
(Utah) Hospital Over Capacity In 'Unsustainable' Coronavirus Spike.
https://ksltv.com/447201/u-of-u-hospita ... rus-spike/

Northern Utah hospital filled to capacity as Southern Utah sets another 1-day high for COVID-19 cases
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archi ... -19-cases/

A Utah woman was near death, but faced hours of delay because hospitals are strained by COVID-19
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/15/ ... -cases-up/
Utah’s hospitals prepare to ration care as a record number of coronavirus patients flood their ICUs
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/10/25/ ... rus-cases/
Meanwhile, I did hear about this in Utah over the weekend. Gee... good going!

‘Mom code’: Parents reportedly avoid testing kids to keep Utah COVID-19 numbers artificially low
https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/m ... ially-low/
Many news sources point to KUTV re: the "mom code". They have https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/paren ... ah-schools including a brief video, which I've watched.

This isn't the first time I've heard of a Trump supporter believing that he's done a good job w/the pandemic. On PBS NewsHour tonight, this staunch supporter at ~7:11 of https://youtu.be/MBvJVrp1SZ4 thought that Trump was very "proactive" and "aggressive" in his approach and didn't see how he could've done things any better. :roll: Seriously? Either this person is way ignorant of how South Korea, Taiwan and New Zealand have (for example) handled it and totally ignored so many things Trump's bungled along the way and still is bungling or they've just become one of the cult members. Or, their "news" sources and others around them have just fed them all sorts of lies and bad information...

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:30 am

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6515/408

My cousin died of a "heart attack" that the doctor said looked nothing like a typical heart attack, but does look like COVID19. He was not tested, as this was early in the epidemic. He had no known heart disease, no family history of heart disease, was in good shape and so on.
There is a diverse spectrum of cardiovascular manifestations, ranging from limited necrosis of heart cells (causing injury), to myocarditis, to cardiogenic shock (an often fatal inability to pump sufficient blood). Cardiac injury, as reflected by concentrations of troponin (a cardiac muscle–specific enzyme) in the blood, is common with COVID-19, occurring in at least one in five hospitalized patients and more than half of those with preexisting heart conditions. Such myocardial injury is a risk factor for in-hospital mortality, and troponin concentration correlates with risk of mortality. Furthermore, patients with higher troponin amounts have markers of increased inflammation [including C-reactive protein, interleukin-6 (IL-6), ferritin, lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), and high neutrophil count] and heart dysfunction (amino-terminal pro-B–type natriuretic peptide) (9).

More worrisome than the pattern of limited injury is myocarditis: diffuse inflammation of the heart, usually representing a variable admixture of injury and the inflammatory response to the injury that can extend throughout the three layers of the human heart to the pericardium (which surrounds the heart). Unlike SARS-associated myocarditis, which did not exhibit lymphocyte infiltration, this immune and inflammatory response is a typical finding at autopsy after SARS-CoV-2 infections. Involvement of myocytes, which orchestrate electrical conduction, can result in conduction block and malignant ventricular arrhythmias, both of which can lead to cardiac arrest.

Along with such in-hospital arrythmias, there have been reports of increased out-of-hospital cardiac arrest and sudden death in multiple geographic regions of high COVID-19 spread, such as the 77% increase in Lombardy, Italy, compared with the prior year (10). There have been many reports of myocarditis simulating a heart attack, owing to the cluster of chest pain symptoms, an abnormal electrocardiogram, and increased cardiac-specific enzymes in the blood, even in patients as young as a 16-year-old boy. When there is extensive and diffuse heart muscle damage, heart failure, acute cor pulmonale (right heart failure and possible pulmonary emboli), and cardiogenic shock can occur.
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