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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:23 pm

They want excuses to ignore the anti-virus protocols, not real information. Thanks for posting that.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:07 am

BTW, some other contributing factors to our COVID-19 dire straits in CA are likely due to at least two major air travel hubs in CA (SFO and LAX airports) + the insane # of people traveling during the pandemic (https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput).

And, we have lots of essential workers in various industries who can't work from home besides the usual fast food/quick serve, supermarket, convenience store, big box retailer, police, fire, etc. like farm workers (out in the fields) and meat processing plants (e.g. chicken, beef). Many of those folks have lower income and live in cramped quarters w/others and possibly in a multi-generational household.

Rep.-elect Luke Letlow dies from Covid complications days before being sworn in
Luke Letlow, a Republican elected to represent Louisiana's 5th District, was 41 years old.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... s-n1252520

Some folks elsewhere pointed out lots of pics of him on Facebook at campaign events where many weren't wearing masks. I didn't find those but there seem to be enough of those at https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow. A few examples below during the pandemic:
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 45025?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 01346?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 51844?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 62208?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 55585?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 87266?s=20
https://twitter.com/LukeLetlow/status/1 ... 71809?s=20

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:04 pm

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:19 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:05 pm
As for "strictest measures in place", our "lockdowns" are still nothing to compared to what Wuhan and surrounding regions endured. It's not like people can't leave their homes. And it's not like we have the state or one's city or county having been sealed off (rail, air and road links cut) like China did.
To add to this and the amount of freedom we still have while under "lockdown", stay at homes/shelter in place orders or whatever, even though much of the state of CA and my county are in this state, I live about 1.2 miles by driving (~0.6 miles as the crow flies) from an expressway (50 mph speed limit) where there are random people who drive recklessly and drag race besides doing donuts in intersection.

I cannot see it since I'm too far away and there are houses in the way. Those who live near near those streets and intersections often call the police, but usually, if they respond at all, the crooks are long gone. I just heard the donuts and the gunning of the engines a few minutes ago. There isn't a specific time or day they show up, AFAIK.

If you approach the intersections in question, you'll see the donut tire marks in road.

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:35 pm

Lol 35th really?
They have completely wrecked their economy with lock downs and shutdowns and people are fleeing the state like crazy to achieve 35th place. Bravo California for being the example of how not to do it.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:39 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:23 pm
They want excuses to ignore the anti-virus protocols, not real information. Thanks for posting that.
I'm just following the science.
The CDC says as of a month ago that reinfections are rare. So rare they can't even do a reinfection study.
According to donkeysp article MIT can only find 30 confired reinfection cases...
What science do you speak of?
Because the science I see is very clear.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:42 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:35 pm
Lol 35th really?
They have completely wrecked their economy with lock downs and shutdowns and people are fleeing the state like crazy to achieve 35th place. Bravo California for being the example of how not to do it.
Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:36 pm
I'm going to call it. The lockdowns and shutdowns in NY and CA are absolute spectacular failures.
They have the strictest measures in place and lead the nation in death and spread.
If you looked at the rest of my post and rankings, in terms of deaths per 1 million population from COVID-19 vs. the other states, 39 states were worse than CA.

In terms of daily avg deaths in the last 7 days, 34 states were worse off.

This is hardly leading the nation, at least in deaths. If you again look at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cases.html under Cases and deaths by state and county, click on deaths then sort by per 100,000 for daily avg in last 7 days, here are some states that are doing MUCH worse than CA in that metric. CA has 0.6.

NM: 1.4
PA: 1.3
AR: 1.3
RI: 1.1
MS: 1.1
SD: 1
IL: 1
AZ: 1
In: 1
NV: 0.9 and so on... go through the at least 1.5 dozen states that follow before you reach CA with 0.6. NY is at 0.7. That's a far cry from NM with double the rate.

The govt can fix or help fix being broke. They can't fix people who have died. Problems with COVID-19 "long haulers" and people like in https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/30/heal ... sions.html are going to be serious problems down the road.

We are hardly "locked down" compared to how places like China locked people down. Over at TiVoCommunity, some of us have the same attitude as https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-5237624. The US has given up on trying to get the situation under control without actually trying much, in effect saying "we're out of ideas". (shrug)

Besides the example that https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-5237596 of testing EVERYONE in a city in China, I'd heard of others. Here's another example: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... -are-found.

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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:10 pm

New mexico another deep blue state with lots of shutdowns is number 1.
No surprise there.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:57 am

Someone is really good at cherry picking facts.

That is whats wrong with this country. Wear a friggen mask and follow what you are told by professional people. Not the Idiot who leads
the Coronavirus party.
cwerdna wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:42 pm
Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:35 pm
Lol 35th really?
They have completely wrecked their economy with lock downs and shutdowns and people are fleeing the state like crazy to achieve 35th place. Bravo California for being the example of how not to do it.
Oilpan4 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:36 pm
I'm going to call it. The lockdowns and shutdowns in NY and CA are absolute spectacular failures.
They have the strictest measures in place and lead the nation in death and spread.
If you looked at the rest of my post and rankings, in terms of deaths per 1 million population from COVID-19 vs. the other states, 39 states were worse than CA.

In terms of daily avg deaths in the last 7 days, 34 states were worse off.

This is hardly leading the nation, at least in deaths. If you again look at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cases.html under Cases and deaths by state and county, click on deaths then sort by per 100,000 for daily avg in last 7 days, here are some states that are doing MUCH worse than CA in that metric. CA has 0.6.

NM: 1.4
PA: 1.3
AR: 1.3
RI: 1.1
MS: 1.1
SD: 1
IL: 1
AZ: 1
In: 1
NV: 0.9 and so on... go through the at least 1.5 dozen states that follow before you reach CA with 0.6. NY is at 0.7. That's a far cry from NM with double the rate.

The govt can fix or help fix being broke. They can't fix people who have died. Problems with COVID-19 "long haulers" and people like in https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/30/heal ... sions.html are going to be serious problems down the road.

We are hardly "locked down" compared to how places like China locked people down. Over at TiVoCommunity, some of us have the same attitude as https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-5237624. The US has given up on trying to get the situation under control without actually trying much, in effect saying "we're out of ideas". (shrug)

Besides the example that https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-5237596 of testing EVERYONE in a city in China, I'd heard of others. Here's another example: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... -are-found.
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Re: COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus

Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:55 am

downeykp wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:57 am
Someone is really good at cherry picking facts.

That is whats wrong with this country. Wear a fridge mask and follow what you are told by professional people.
LOL. https://www.redbubble.com/i/mask/Stay-F ... 7653.9G0D8
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