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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:19 pm

TRONZ wrote:I agree that once you have peace of mind securing an EV, you pretty much have freedom to pick whatever car you want for occasional use. Freedom is good!
DeaneG wrote:Based on our limited usage of a gas car, I'd say that for most people they should make a fine second vehicle.
Good points Tronz and Deane! and the second car can be a true gas guzzler or a small roadster, depending on needs and tastes.

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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:29 pm

Tip: purchase a 12V battery maintainer and air compressor if you don't have one already. I use my ICE backup so infrequently that the last time I went to use it the battery was dead and one tire flat!

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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:27 am

My old gas car sees the battery charger and tire inflator much more than it sees me! Haven't driven it in months. Don't forget to put in fuel stabilizer additive while the gas is still fresh. You can buy it in Home Depot in the chainsaw section, right where it belongs.
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:57 am

TickTock wrote:Tip: purchase a 12V battery maintainer and air compressor if you don't have one already. I use my ICE backup so infrequently that the last time I went to use it the battery was dead and one tire flat!
I log my ICE car use on a calendar and try to drive it every two to three weeks if it hasn't been otherwise needed.

My second car is a 1996 Jeep Cherokee (with manual transmission) that gets 23 mpg most of the time, ~20 mpg with some 4WD use, and 25-28 mpg on long trips over the mountains. Its function is to get me up my driveway in winter when I haven't had time to shovel all of it, to handle difficult driving conditions, to tackle the abundance of "Jeep roads" around here (such as Imogene Pass, 13,000 feet: requires low range second gear), and to handle long trips.

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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:56 am

waaay back when i first got my Leaf; i had fully intended to keep both Priuses. after all, both cars were paid for so minimal financial risk to keeping both and less than 2 cars is not an option for us. but after 3 months of going out to start up the 2006 to let it idle 10 minutes and shut if off once a week (we were doing it once every two weeks but came out one day and the battery was almost dead) we realized that the Leaf was more than enough to cover our needs.
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:58 am

I took the weekend roadster out on a weekday, driving with the top down on one of San Diego's winding mountain roads :-); it was tons of fun! I stopped at the Ramona Library and saw a LEAF parked in one of 2 spots designated for low emissions vehicles but no EVSE. Once the supposed DC charger comes online in Santa Ysabel, it'd be fun to make the same trip with the LEAF and compare the driving experience.

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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:42 pm

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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:10 pm

No one came upon the perfect solution to the "audio problem"?

I just switch on my wife's station before I get out, no missed sentences for me...
The worst that could happen is that you have to switch it back if she doesn't take the car before you do.
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:11 pm

Primary car will be the LEAF.
Secondary car will be a 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor.

I'm not sure what benefit the LEAF would be as a secondary car. I always thought it was practical at everyday stuff (driving to work, to the store, to the bank, etc...). Using the LEAF just on the weekends seems exactly the opposite of what I would do.
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:35 pm

"eHelmholtz"...the second car can be a true gas guzzler or a small roadster, depending on needs and tastes.
I have a 96 Cherokee (16 mpg average) and a 82 Fiat Spider (25 mpg average), registered and insured (about $500 for the last year, between the two of them).

I only have put about 100 miles on the Fiat, and 50 miles on the Jeep, since I got my LEAF, 10 months and 7,300 BEV miles ago.

I am quite sure I will put some miles on both ICEVs very soon, though.

Both are Due for Their biannual smog inspections, within a month.

$100, for gas for the trip and inspection fees, and two hours of waiting, between them.

In my recent experience, ICEVs, are quite expensive to operate, in terms of cost per mile...
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