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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:13 pm
by GRA
Unfortunately, while it certainly helps, there's nowhere near enough geothermal energy in the world to make up the difference, even if used at unsustainable rates.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:37 am
by Oilpan4
Something that has never been explained to my satisfaction is why do people like AL gore who air conditions empty mansions and fakes like Bloomberg who fly all over the world get a free pass to produce lifetimes worth of CO2 to go to a global warming summit or any time they want to go vacation in Asia somewhere but people like me get crucified for burning a little coal?

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:32 pm
by LeftieBiker
The justification (or rationalization) is that they cause more positive change that offsets their negative environmental impacts. You could probably argue that driving an EV puts you in the same category. Most people who burn coal do not do similar things.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:35 pm
by SageBrush
In the last few weeks the NM PUC (called PRC in NM) rejected the utility's (PNM) proposal to replace 600 MW coal with NG+PV and instead directed them to procure 600 MW of PV and 300 MW, 1200 MWh battery. The PNM proposal would have reduced the average customer bill $6.5 a month (over time) while the PRC procurement mandate reduces the monthly savings to $6

PNM has changed its tune, and is now talking about transmission investments in order to bring wind/PV from the areas best suited for generation to where it is consumed. Personally, I think that PNM has realized that they are not going to receive permission to capitalize fossil investments so they have pivoted towards investments in infrastructure.

These major shifts in policy reflect the change the most recent elections wrought, throwing out trumper/repukes and installing Dems/Progressives -- in the Governor, state legislature, and PRC

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 3:06 pm
by SageBrush
GRA wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:59 pm
Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:18 pm
https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2020/01/2 ... e-session/
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The additional registration fee for electric and hybrid vehicles mirrors SB 20, prefiled by Sen. Bill Tallman, R-Albuquerque, though Tallman’s proposed registration fees range from $50-$100 per year.

The EV reg. and license fees are far smaller than the EV tax credits they're also trying to pass.
It is so unusual to see a Repuke propose anything pro EV or environment, I'll add some color:
Tallman represents a district in Albuquerque, a strongly Dem tilted demographic. He is in general Pro Tesla, he says due to his personal ownership of the car. I have heard him speak enough times in person at Tesla meets to say that without doubt he is suffering from senility.

It would be interesting to unmask the puppet master. It might be Akhil Abbas although I think that person is a Dem. Party polarization in NM is less pronounced than in DC, and certainly a lot less vicious. Pre trumpers, I think they even talked to each other.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:26 pm
by Oilpan4
LeftieBiker wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:32 pm
The justification (or rationalization) is that they cause more positive change that offsets their negative environmental impacts. You could probably argue that driving an EV puts you in the same category. Most people who burn coal do not do similar things.
Surrreee. So you buy the do as I say not as I do. Post edited because I hurted LeftieBikers feelers. Boohoo.
It was the truth.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:36 pm
by Oilpan4
SageBrush wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:35 pm
In the last few weeks the NM PUC (called PRC in NM) rejected the utility's (PNM) proposal to replace 600 MW coal with NG+PV and instead directed them to procure 600 MW of PV and 300 MW, 1200 MWh battery. The PNM proposal would have reduced the average customer bill $6.5 a month (over time) while the PRC procurement mandate reduces the monthly savings to $6

PNM has changed its tune, and is now talking about transmission investments in order to bring wind/PV from the areas best suited for generation to where it is consumed. Personally, I think that PNM has realized that they are not going to receive permission to capitalize fossil investments so they have pivoted towards investments in infrastructure.

These major shifts in policy reflect the change the most recent elections wrought, throwing out trumper/repukes and installing Dems/Progressives -- in the Governor, state legislature, and PRC
Sure just like it made electricity cheaper in California. They will be voted out before they can restructure the PRC and do any major damage.
We already have the cheapest or second cheapest power in the United States. I'm sure they can only screw it up.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:39 pm
by LeftieBiker
Oilpan, stop calling people here idiots. That applies to everyone here, at least when it comes to calling other forum members names.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:41 pm
by Oilpan4
My bad I'll be sure to grace you with my presence for 10 straight days to make up for it.

Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:28 pm
by smkettner
So what is the rate up to now?

My on-peak in CA is over 50 cents kWh.