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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:49 pm

smkettner wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:28 pm
So what is the rate up to now?
My on-peak in CA is over 50 cents kWh.
7.7 cents a kWh for customers of PNM, by far the largest utility in New Mexico. There is no peak pricing although a higher tier of consumption is about 2 cents a kWh more. The Repuke dominated oil and gas regions in the southern part of the state not served by PNM pay more.

You have to be careful of details though because volumetric charges are only part of the total bill. My bills through the summer have been ~ $30 for 200 kWh a month. I'm always amused when the home I built a PV array for in Colorado that reduced the volumetric charges to zero has monthly bills higher than my home in Albuquerque due to the high monthly connection fee.
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:48 pm

Maybe it is time to change the title of the thread?
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:11 pm

smkettner wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:48 pm
Maybe it is time to change the title of the thread?
Better to leave it in case a new reader does not realize that OP is a troll
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:35 am

smkettner wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:28 pm
So what is the rate up to now?

My on-peak in CA is over 50 cents kWh.
NM and most of the country doesn't have to deal with this peak rate stupidity.
Now with solar I only pay the service charge for about 9 months out of the year.
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:50 am

Not all electricity is the same cost to produce.

Should it all be the same price?

I'd guess that the answer depends on how much free market you want. A regulated single price, or closer to a price that is set by supply and demand. Or even the wholesale price, as close to a completely free market as you could get.

How do they handle this on planet Korriban?
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:07 am

The people in California wanted "green" power they now have to pay for green power.
I believe people should have to pay for their mistakes and fix them if they want the situation to change.
All that extreme green power BS can stay in California.
The free market is working perfectly in new mexico.
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:12 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:07 am
The free market is working perfectly in new mexico.
if the price of electric power is constant, there isn't a free market for electric power.

But really, what about Korriban?
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:26 am

I would appear that when done correctly 7.7 cents per kwh can cover the highs, the lows, turn a profit for investor owned power plants and no one but government control enthusiasts are complaining.
The power stays on and it's the cheapest in the country. Sounds like you're advocating to fix what's not broken.
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:11 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:26 am
I would appear that when done correctly 7.7 cents per kwh can cover the highs, the lows, turn a profit for investor owned power plants and no one but government control enthusiasts are complaining.
The power stays on and it's the cheapest in the country. Sounds like you're advocating to fix what's not broken.
A well regulated market is a good thing.

Just don't confuse it with a "free market", as it is not one.

Still waiting to hear about Korriban.
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Re: Well new mexico governor decided to make electricity unaffordable

Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:50 pm

From what I can tell it's almost a closed market.
They made the bureaucracy so thick it's impossible to change anything in 1 election cycle which is saving us from becoming California.
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