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Re: Ice911

Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:14 pm

Most of are not life long swamp creatures worth millions of dollars because we worked in DC decades.
We are not the government they are, don't like, then vote them out.

Plus according to a recent pew research pole voters are more worried about:
Health care costs, drug additction, fake news, our broken political system and violent crime than they are worried about climate change.
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Re: Ice911

Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:18 pm

You may want to edit that post to make the first part more clear. As for what voters prioritize, they worry about what they are told by those they follow to worry about. If AGW were put in terms like "Your children won't live to be 65" or "Your kids are the last generation of this civilization" they might reorder things a bit.
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Re: Ice911

Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:16 pm

Well our children won't live to 65 if they get addicted to drugs, can't afford health care, get murdered or if our broken political system goes Venezuela level broke.

So scare them until they are more worried about climate change?
I thought that's precisely what's going on right now and it's obviously not working.
That sounds like you are calling for inducing mass hysteria.

Since drug over dose kills more people than all traffic deaths and all firearms deaths combind I think voters have their properties in order seeing how that's the number one thing voters worry about.

If global warming is going to kill us all then when is global warming going to start killing 20,000 Americans per year?
Maybe that will get people's attention.
(Which happens to be about how many people are killed in violent crimes)
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Re: Ice911

Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:33 pm

If global warming is going to kill us all then when is global warming going to start killing 20,000 Americans per year?
I'd guess within the next 5-10 years, the way storms are increasing in intensity. Since you don't seem to grasp the difference between self-destructive behavior and being destroyed by one's environment regardless of personal behavior, I'll leave it at that. I sincerely hope that you don't have grand kids.
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Re: Ice911

Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:45 pm

Funny thing is I was told that " we would see mass deaths in the US from climate with in 10 years" back in 2005 or 2006.
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Re: Ice911

Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:28 am

More likely you watched a disaster movie and decided it was what those awful liberals thought.
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Re: Ice911

Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:04 am

Oilpan4 wrote:Well our children won't live to 65 if they get addicted to drugs, can't afford health care, get murdered or if our broken political system goes Venezuela level broke.
Or die in a war.
Oilpan4 wrote:So scare them until they are more worried about climate change?
We should be worried about climate change. And aware of the time scale.
Oilpan4 wrote:If global warming is going to kill us all then when is global warming going to start killing 20,000 Americans per year?
Maybe that will get people's attention.
(Which happens to be about how many people are killed in violent crimes)
Climate change is an important problem, not an urgent problem. Waiting until it start to kill 20,000 Americans a year will be waiting far too long. Civilization will be collapsing not not afterwards.

Americans, being rich, are mostly protected against environmental issues that are lethal to non-Americans. Not completely, see the Camp Fire. And Americans are impacted by other's problems.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/envi ... ate-to-us/
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Re: Ice911

Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:33 am

Then there is also the problem of 68% of voters are unwilling to pay more than $10 per month to fix global warming.
That tells us the vast majority don't think it's much of aI problem.

I would pay the $10. Be well worth it if it meant I didn't have to hear about it any more.
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Re: Ice911

Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:03 am

Oilpan4 wrote:Funny thing is I was told that " we would see mass deaths in the US from climate with in 10 years" back in 2005 or 2006.
So we aren't? Or you are simply choosing lay the blame elsewhere?
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Re: Ice911

Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:20 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:That tells us the vast majority don't think it's much of aI problem.
A large propaganda campaign to convince them of that is isn't a big problem has been very effective, hasn't it?
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