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Climate Strike

Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:17 pm

I was there in the midst of the march and rally with Greta Thunberg in NYC. The speech she gave was quite different at the rally compared to the UN speech. She was quite composed and to the point at the rally. I don't know what happened to her at the UN. I had hoped she would be more like she was at the rally.

It's quite despairing to see how slow people are to embrace fighting climate change. I feel her pain and am glad I could help show there is a growing number of people joining the fight. NYC says there was 60,000 people there. I would like to see that number go up at each of these events, even if Greta is only there in spirit. There's a local Long Island event this Friday and I will be there too.
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Re: Climate Strike

Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:51 am

Here we are about 6 weeks later.
I don't think anyone cared or noticed.
Doesn't appear to be anything that resembles a lasting effect.
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Re: Climate Strike

Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:11 pm

This kind of systemic change requires sustained, continual (or better yet, continuous) action.
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Re: Climate Strike

Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:41 pm

Kind of like if all these people demanding something be done go replace their gas burner with an electric car and say no to natural gas if they have natural gas and install a heat pump.
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:04 am

Individual hypocrisy is basic human nature. What matters more is what we as a global society accomplish. The problem is that don't seem to have the instinctual behaviors needed to survive at this technological level. I've said it before, but I now suspect that the universe is littered with dead or nearly dead planets destroyed by either nuclear war or runaway warming (or, in some cases, cooling) caused by the dominant technological species.
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:29 am

Too bad Ecomodder site admin shut down the climate change thread. It was 8000 posts and some very good information and links.
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https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread. ... 32842.html
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There is a good thread on Endless-Sphere also. 6000 posts
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https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... =7&t=89002
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My main emphasis has been in working with Nate Hagens to promote the information he teaches in his class at U. Minnesota. He calls Reality 101. Which is a systems view of energy, economy, ecology, resources depletion, human behavior. How it all fits together. So we can accept and start working for a whole new way of resilience as we approach the limits to exponential growth on a finite planet.
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Watch the video lecture series he threw together.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbbfqyJ ... MmBKYRtyJS
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgxopI ... zhnozJUsBV
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:40 am

My contribution to this debate, updated a bit:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23052&p=477435#p477435
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:44 am

sendler2112 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:29 am
Too bad Ecomodder site admin shut down the climate change thread. It was 8000 posts and some very good information and links.
.
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread. ... 32842.html
.
There is a good thread on Endless-Sphere also. 6000 posts
.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... =7&t=89002
.
My main emphasis has been in working with Nate Hagens to promote the information he teaches in his class at U. Minnesota. He calls Reality 101. Which is a systems view of energy, economy, ecology, resources depletion, human behavior. How it all fits together. So we can accept and start working for a whole new way of resilience as we approach the limits to exponential growth on a finite planet.
.
Watch the video lecture series he threw together.
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbbfqyJ ... MmBKYRtyJS
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsgxopI ... zhnozJUsBV
.
That sounds more rational than global warming is going to kill everyone if we don't institute communism now.
Which is funny because communist superpowers have historically had absolutely atrocious environmental policies.
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:12 pm

That sounds more rational than global warming is going to kill everyone if we don't institute communism now.
This is a perfect example of what is called a "strawman argument." You claim that someone is saying something that they are not in fact arguing at all, and then rebut that false claim, which is easy to knock down. Thus the term "strawman."
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Re: Climate Strike

Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:07 pm

What else would you call the demand for implementing a centrally planned government to control the economy and force everyone to live their lives in a highly dictated manor in the name of saving the planet?

I couldn't help but notice you didn't offer any explanation besides calling it a straw man which is a weak dodge.
I called it for exactly what it is and we both know it.
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