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McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:23 pm

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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:31 am

If anyone bothered to read the last ipcc report they would know that even a 1.5C temperature increase by 2100 is considered unlikely.
So a 5 degree increase by 2050 is insane baseless fear mongering.
Then these guys say they are only going to focus on the very scary and unlikely rpc8.5 scenario. More fear mongering.

They also say "climate hazards manifest locally". So does stupidity. When people build their houses below sea level, in a known chronic flood zone, on the water in a tropical coast region, build houses right up to the edge of the woods and homes get destroyed, that's a 100% man made disaster. Don't even need climate change for that. It's only a matter of time.
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:17 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:31 am
If anyone bothered to read the last ipcc report they would know that even a 1.5C temperature increase by 2100 is considered unlikely.
Sign is incorrect.

Less than a 1.5C temperature increase is unlikely, close to impossible. Carbon released by melting permafrost might make 1.5C before 2100 unavoidable without some magic to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere even if today was the last day humans burned any fossil fuels.

Lots and lots of details.

https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/

I don't see any practical way to keep at or below the path to 1.5C.

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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:22 pm

That shows how ridiculous the 5 degrees in 30 years is.

Last time I checked the US was leading the way in CO2 reduction.
Maybe those climate change protesters can go tell China.
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:01 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:22 pm
That shows how ridiculous the 5 degrees in 30 years is.
You are babbling.
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:39 pm

We will see what the 2022 report says.
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:23 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:39 pm
We will see what the 2022 report says.
Then we can wait for the 2026 report, and so on. Until the PIG cuts loose, eh? Or do you know about the PIG?
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:18 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:31 am
If anyone bothered to read the last ipcc report they would know that even a 1.5C temperature increase by 2100 is considered unlikely.
So a 5 degree increase by 2050 is insane baseless fear mongering.
Then these guys say they are only going to focus on the very scary and unlikely rpc8.5 scenario. More fear mongering.

They also say "climate hazards manifest locally". So does stupidity. When people build their houses below sea level, in a known chronic flood zone, on the water in a tropical coast region, build houses right up to the edge of the woods and homes get destroyed, that's a 100% man made disaster. Don't even need climate change for that. It's only a matter of time.
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:09 pm

WetEV wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:23 am

Then we can wait for the 2026 report, and so on. Until the PIG cuts loose, eh? Or do you know about the PIG?
I plead ignorance of this acronym, and google just brings up references to (lower case) pigs. Care to enlighten us?
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Re: McKinsey: Climate risk and response: Physical hazards and socioeconomic impacts

Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:21 pm

GRA wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:09 pm
WetEV wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:23 am

Then we can wait for the 2026 report, and so on. Until the PIG cuts loose, eh? Or do you know about the PIG?
I plead ignorance of this acronym, and google just brings up references to (lower case) pigs. Care to enlighten us?
The PIG's neighbor might act up first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/clim ... avity.html
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