lebikerboy
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm

In British Columbia, Canada there will be no more ICE vehicle sales past 2040. IMHO, if people want to drive ICE past this date they should be limited to pleasure only and no driving to work. Plus there should probably be a hearty insurance premium for doing so. :roll:
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webeleafowners
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:49 pm

lebikerboy wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm
In British Columbia, Canada there will be no more ICE vehicle sales past 2040. IMHO, if people want to drive ICE past this date they should be limited to pleasure only and no driving to work. Plus there should probably be a hearty insurance premium for doing so. :roll:
I think it will happen before then. In 2009 nine percent of new vehicle sales in B.C. were electric. It is expected to be 15 percent this year. Gas stations are already in decline. Who would buy a gas car in the last few years just from the resale point of view.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:56 pm

lebikerboy wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm
In British Columbia, Canada there will be no more ICE vehicle sales past 2040. IMHO, if people want to drive ICE past this date they should be limited to pleasure only and no driving to work. Plus there should probably be a hearty insurance premium for doing so. :roll:
ICE is likely to survive far longer in remote areas. Not in the lower mainland, the air is bad enough now. Getting rid of the ICE pollution will make it a nicer place to live.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:17 am

WetEV wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:56 pm
lebikerboy wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:29 pm
In British Columbia, Canada there will be no more ICE vehicle sales past 2040. IMHO, if people want to drive ICE past this date they should be limited to pleasure only and no driving to work. Plus there should probably be a hearty insurance premium for doing so. :roll:
ICE is likely to survive far longer in remote areas. Not in the lower mainland, the air is bad enough now. Getting rid of the ICE pollution will make it a nicer place to live.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:42 pm

I just don't know about electric only cars in the frozen north. A lot of people will end up running diesel fired heaters like me.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:43 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:42 pm
I just don't know about electric only cars in the frozen north. A lot of people will end up running diesel fired heaters like me.
Well, you are using nearly all the energy to "keep warm", I don't see that as a waste. Now imagine if your ran your diesel fired heater with all the windows open in the house and wasted all that heat energy, that's about what a ICE does with all the heat it produces, a small portion pushes you forward, the rest is all wasted as heat.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:21 am

The manual for the diesel fired heater says it's supposed to be 85% efficient.
Still blows some heat out the exhaust.
The weeks when it's really cold I use may up to 1qt per week. Last year it dropped down to 10F at night for a week I might have used 1.25 quarts that week.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:42 pm

ABG:
EPA administrator disses California goal for zero-emission car sales

Andrew Wheeler questions its legality, power grid's ability to handle EV charging
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/28/epa ... ions-goal/

. . .EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said the plan "raises serious questions regarding its legality and practicality" and said it could cause problems for the state's electrical grid.

He also declared the move could be subject to federal approval, saying it "may require California to request a waiver to U.S. EPA."

The EPA in 2019 issued rules barring California from requiring the sale of electric vehicles; a court challenge is pending. . . .
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:57 pm

GRA wrote:
Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:42 pm
. . .EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said the plan "raises serious questions regarding its legality and practicality" and said it could cause problems for the state's electrical grid.

He also declared the move could be subject to federal approval, saying it "may require California to request a waiver to U.S. EPA."

The EPA in 2019 issued rules barring California from requiring the sale of electric vehicles; a court challenge is pending. . . [/list]
Wont be a problem when science is (hopefully) reimposed on this department in January.
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Re: CA to ban NEW ICE Vehicles by 2035 - maybe?

Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:40 pm

I predict very few will want an ICE in 15 years for basic transportation.
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