DougWantsALeaf
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:52 am

So no chance of active cooling on the battery?

I will guess the 40 pack will go up to 44 or 45 for the same money to compete better against Zoe and the remaining sub 200 mile cars.

Guessing as well they tweak a few epa miles out of the 62 pack via other small improvements. They need 400 Km WLTP range to be seen as competitive. That means getting 10 more miles out of the pack.
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webeleafowners
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:10 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:52 am
So no chance of active cooling on the battery?

I will guess the 40 pack will go up to 44 or 45 for the same money to compete better against Zoe and the remaining sub 200 mile cars.

Guessing as well they tweak a few epa miles out of the 62 pack via other small improvements. They need 400 Km WLTP range to be seen as competitive. That means getting 10 more miles out of the pack.
The active cooling would mean nothing to us as we live in a cooler climate. A solid 400 km rating would be cool but not a biggy. I am curious if they will expand on their “over the air updates” as seeing after purchase improvements would be probably good for the brand.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:13 am

kikbuti wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:49 am
danrjones wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am
kikbuti wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:31 am
It's mid September and this thread is the best I can find on USA 2020 Nissan Leaf+. I just sold my 2016 Leaf SL to Carmax. I have 6 more payments on a Volvo lease. I hate buying gas. Dealer wanting to slam me into a leftover 2019 SL+ with discounts up to 4500. This time, I won't settle for a black interior. I plan to wait to get what I want. Can't do Tesla for many reasons.... ingress/egress, quality issues, higher insurance, no cheap financing offers, etc.
If you wait long enough there will be a Volvo xc40 ev.

I don't think anyone knows what 2020 will bring. One reason I did not mind the sv trim was fabric seats are cooler.

There are still plenty of plus inventory around los angeles last time I looked.
Volvo XC40 EV announcement in a few weeks. This may just work out for me. I can delay purchase until at least February. Test driving a Tesla Model 3 at noon today.
I found this on it, a teaser, but still interesting.

https://insideevs.com/news/372768/volvo ... ctober-16/
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:44 pm

That's a good point, why haven't they done any real over the air updates yet. Even if its just to add a token "fart" feature or something.

The capability is there. Nissan is losing its window to show it can change culture and adaptive abilities to the market.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:37 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:44 pm
That's a good point, why haven't they done any real over the air updates yet. Even if its just to add a token "fart" feature or something.

The capability is there. Nissan is losing its window to show it can change culture and adaptive abilities to the market.
Does the Leaf even support OTA updates?

Maybe the map, but would be surprised if Nissan set of the main system to be updatable OTA.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:52 am

danrjones wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:13 am
kikbuti wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:49 am
danrjones wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am


If you wait long enough there will be a Volvo xc40 ev.

I don't think anyone knows what 2020 will bring. One reason I did not mind the sv trim was fabric seats are cooler.

There are still plenty of plus inventory around los angeles last time I looked.
Volvo XC40 EV announcement in a few weeks. This may just work out for me. I can delay purchase until at least February. Test driving a Tesla Model 3 at noon today.
I found this on it, a teaser, but still interesting.

https://insideevs.com/news/372768/volvo ... ctober-16/
Currently driving Tesla Model 3 for overnight test drive. Volvo dealer says XC40EC delivery expected in the spring, but no news on the pricing. Tesla M3 is a cool car, but the $40K version lacks so many things. Need to spend $50K to get a good car, IMHO. I can get a loaded Leaf SL Plus for $40K here in the midwest. I may be getting my third Nissan Leaf. Seems the other manufacturers are coming up short. Chevy Bolt feels crappy. Hyundai/Kia not available here and seems too small. Tesla about $10K too much.
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danrjones
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:40 am

If volvo follows how they did their plugin hybrid pricing for the larger cousins- where they made it the top engine T8 in top trim - then you can guess a price by going up in price one above the current top trim.

So a xc40 inscription trim t5 starts at about 43k but that's without any addons and Volvo puts all the good stuff as packages. Plus I'd expect them to pad it with the approximate fed tax credit.

A nicely loaded inscription t5 is about 47k.
Add in the 7500 and you are looking at about 55k for the starting point for ev trim.

That's just a wild guess.
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:26 pm

danrjones wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:37 am
Does the Leaf even support OTA updates?

Maybe the map, but would be surprised if Nissan set of the main system to be updatable OTA.
Yes, the Leaf Plus supports OTA updates for the main system, in addition to the maps. It has to be connected to wi-fi, but then you can tell it to check manually, or it will automatically check once a week or so. However, it reports the current version number, and mine has not changed in the six months I've had it. So, I have yet to actually see an update.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:13 pm

Does your show version 399 as well?
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webeleafowners
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Re: What's new for 2020?

Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:19 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:13 pm
Does your show version 399 as well?
I’m not sure what you mean Doug. Version of what. Sorry. I’m not very informed on some of this stuff.
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