goldbrick
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:51 pm

I'd say that just driving the car over the border, getting the work done and then driving it back would be the easiest approach.

Back in the day there was a business selling new Mexican made VW Beetles to people in the US. You drove your old decrepit Beetle over the border where the body pan, tags, title and anything with the serial number on it were transferred to a brand new Mexican built Beetle which was then driven back to the US. I don't know if it was technically 100% legal but it was done a lot. Just replacing a battery in a Leaf would be much easier.

alozzy
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:38 pm

goldbrick wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:51 pm
I'd say that just driving the car over the border, getting the work done and then driving it back would be the easiest approach.
This!
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:45 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:35 pm
alozzy wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:48 am
They do private/closed auctions to registered/licensed "buyers" only (wreckers, dismantlers, recyclers) - not to the general public.
How expensive is it to open the business 'Alozzy's EV Dismantlers' ?
LOL, believe or not, I did give it some thought, to the extent that I priced out commercial leases for garage space. With the state of innovation now; from people like Emile, Dala, and others; it's becoming much easier for a non genius to do battery swaps...

Tools, cables, and other devices from EVs Enhanced in NZ, the Muxsan CAN bridge, code enhancement and knowledge transfer from Dala and others - battery swaps should soon become a profitable business, once the supply chain for used battery packs reaches maturity.

However, for me right now, it comes back to the same problem...

It's hard enough to find one reasonably priced 40 kWh pack in Vancouver. I think I'd quickly have a long list of customers with no batteries to offer them. I have no burning desire to become the next Fenix :lol:
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:08 am

alozzy wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:45 pm
I have no burning desire to become the next Fenix :lol:
Amen to that.

I wasn't thinking of a real, physical garage. Just the business registration
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:39 pm

You know, you could use an installer like mine if you have a place to ship the battery to.

Essentially that person would fly out to any U.S. location and installs the battery that you've paid for.

Your trick in this case, would be find a friendly EV-er, maybe from the forum who will receive your $7k battery and let installer use driveway space for 1.5 days? Honestly, if California were nearer to you, you could use our driveway (seriously), it's large enough. (I might even throw in a surf lesson).... We totally want to support the EV community. You could have a fun multi day drive back; issue is getting down with limited range... (si?).

My installer charges between $1,000 to $1300 to do the labour and with that he includes the CANBUS. I think that's a smoking deal, and he would probably give you something for you old EV battery unless you dismantle the old battery before driving across, so you can use / sell the modules in Canada. Would probably pay for labour and then some.

Thoughts?

Aloha

and to this day I am so bummed that I never got the Mexican VW motor!
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:50 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:08 am
alozzy wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:45 pm
I have no burning desire to become the next Fenix :lol:
Amen to that.

I wasn't thinking of a real, physical garage. Just the business registration
Ah, I see what you mean...

The problem is with the very narrow definitions that ICBC places on "buyers", who are licensed to participate in auctions.

One category is "Rebuilder/Dealer" - basically, already registered car dealerships. Substantial barrier to entry.

Another category is "Wrecker/Dismantlers", which requires you have a land use contract with a local municipality for the wrecking of automobiles. Would have to own/lease land intended for wrecking.

The last category is "Steel/Scrap Metal Recycler", who aren't permitted to resell parts - they are only allowed to sell the metal for scrap value.
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:02 am

alozzy wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:50 pm
SageBrush wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:08 am
I wasn't thinking of a real, physical garage. Just the business registration
Ah, I see what you mean...
The problem is with the very narrow definitions that ICBC places on "buyers", who are licensed to participate in auctions.
Informative -- thanks.

I suppose the real barrier is only wanting to buy one pack. With larger scale it might be worth the effort to come to an understanding with someone who already has a license that is not being used for LEAF.
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:02 pm

@SageBrush;

Excellent point as always from you.

Very well could be that there is a mutually beneficial 'understanding' that could be reached with someone.

Along those lines, I think I know a guy through my Delica connections in Vancouver that might play ball. This guy is really creative and a super nice guy and seems to know his way through local bureaucracy to keep it legit and forward moving.... He might want to grow his business in addition to serving the L300 and L400s. He's a big help to that community.

PM me for more information if wanted.

Aloha
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:41 pm

Today's number's at some point and a lead food will drop those number's like Galileo tossing his cookies from the Tower of Pisa. Not pretty.

Aloha
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Re: EV Rebates for Used Leafs / affordability along with 62 kWh battery upgrade ($8800 sample)

Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:45 pm

jbsocdelica wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:41 pm
Today's number's at some point and a lead food will drop those number's like Galileo tossing his cookies from the Tower of Pisa. Not pretty.

Aloha
How did you get a 62kWh to fit a 2011?

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