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2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:46 am

When is the release date, if there is one?
Will there be any changes for 2021?
I checked my local, Norcal, dealers still have a lot of 2020 in their inventories, I wonder if they will order 2021

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OrientExpress
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:27 am

I recently had a call with Nissan corporate on the 2021 LEAF and they will most likely be hitting the dealers lots in the first quarter of 2021.

There are no major changes to the 2021, but as with all cars year to year there are lots of little changes.

I expect that I will be getting my hands on one to review very soon, and will be publishing my finding then.

There are still 2019 and 20 cars in inventory, and they have some great offers attached to them.
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:57 pm

Pricing on a 2018 LEAF SV (40 kWh pack) starts at around $15k in NorCal, from what I can see on Autotrader. I'll never understand why people buy new, with those kind of deals to be had on used...
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:24 pm

If you can get a new Leaf Lease for under $100 a month with almost nothing down, why bother with a used one?
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:59 am

Are you talking about a lease?
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:07 pm

Yep. Even here in Illinois with no state program (though we do have the $100 ev annual surcharge), there are lease deals under $200 with interest now now.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
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Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:41 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:07 pm
Yep. Even here in Illinois with no state program (though we do have the $100 ev annual surcharge), there are lease deals under $200 with interest now now.
Post some adverts or links that show all the details. It is not helpful to post partial information.

E.g.,
Money down,
TT&L
Acquisition costs
Return fees
Lease duration
Financing cost
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OrientExpress
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:16 pm

Here are some of the current offers across the nation..

http://ev-vin.blogspot.com/2016/07/curr ... d-evs.html
2018 LEAF SL
Gun Metalic
Delivery April 10 2018

Prior LEAF:
2014 LEAF SV
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Delivery May 23 2014
50,000+ miles - all 12 bars - Same range as new - No warranty issues ever!

DougWantsALeaf
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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:33 pm

Its was on the NissanUSA site for my zip code. $199/month and $199 down for the 40 Leaf. A 62 SL was $360 month and $360 down.
2019 S Plus (98.06% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.77% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

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Re: 2021 Nissan Leaf?

Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:33 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:33 pm
Its was on the NissanUSA site for my zip code. $199/month and $199 down for the 40 Leaf. A 62 SL was $360 month and $360 down.
Confused, as earlier you said:
If you can get a new Leaf Lease for under $100 a month with almost nothing down, why bother with a used one?
Anyways, leasing a LEAF isn't the same as buying one...

A 5 year (60 month) car loan on a $15000 purchase, with $3000 down, would cost $216 per month (assuming 3% rate). At the end of that 5 years, the car would likely still be worth $10000. So, effectively you would be out of pocket about $6000 ($5000 depreciation + $1000 in loan interest on a 3% rate) as you still own the car and could sell it if you chose to. Also, once the payments are gone, your cost of ownership drops to almost nothing thereafter.

You quoted $199 monthly, on a 3 year lease for a 40 kWh new LEAF. Total payments are almost $7200 and you don't own the car - so no depreciation incurred, but no asset value either.

All fine if you can write off the lease payments as a business expense, but otherwise a lease makes no sense to me. A 2018 LEAF is almost identical to a new 2020 LEAF with a 40 kWh pack, so you end up paying a premium for a car that's no better.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D

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