You still need to worry about this on a lease. Anything above what nissan considers normal "wear and tear" will be charged to you when you return the car.JustinC wrote: 5. Owning a car means thinking about resale all the time. That means the kids, dogs, etc need to be careful with their ice cream, paws, etc, and I better not have an accident that damages the title.
Thanks for this input. I hadn't thought about it that way. I guess I will have to be just as careful or more careful with the lease. Oh well. That's one reason down. Even if I did have to pay something for wear and tear, it still would be much cheaper for 3 years of leasing than 3 years of ownership.You still need to worry about this on a lease. Anything above what nissan considers normal "wear and tear" will be charged to you when you return the car.
On my honda, paint scratches longer than 1 inch were not normal "wear and tear" (even if it's 1.1 inch long, with no dent, made by someone else in a parking lot), bumpers dent (even 1/8th of a inch big ... seriously must have been a gravel on the highway that did it), were not normal "wear and tear" )
You actually have to be MORE careful with a lease (if you plan to return it, which you should), than when you own.
In my case, Honda Finance had an "extra" allowance for something like up to $1000 above normal "wear and tear", so I didn't end up paying anything.
And you can't trade something for something else (as in if you drive half the miles you can, but have a dent, all they'll see is your dent, while your "real" market value could be exactly the same as a 2x milage, no dent model).
I bought a 2004 Nissan Quest. This was a brand new model at the time, built in a brand new Nissan plant (Canton, Mississippi), and built by people that had never built cars before. It now has almost 90,000 miles on it, and I have made no out-of-pocket repairs (other than normal maintenance). I plan on using the Quest as our second vehicle and continue to drive it for several more years with the LEAF becoming our primary vehicle. So, to answer your question, yes I have no problem with Nissan's quality. It has proven itself to me in over 35 years of experience as a Datsun/Nissan owner having owned/driven six different Nissan products over that time. The Oppama plant has over 40 years of car building under its belt. I think that we'll be fine.JustinC wrote:Anyone who thinks this is going to be their last car purchase for a long while should answer this question - if it wasn't an EV, would you be considering the first edition of a new model for a long term purchase?
Not necessarily...if you lease, you could STILL own the first mass produced BEV just by purchasing it at the end of the lease.cdub wrote:Good points.... but also... part of me wants to always own the "first mass produced electric car". If I lease I get another.. .then it wouldn't be the first now would it?
But you are right... it is something to think about.
Brendan, I was thinking about taking the fed credit this year for solar (plus what's left rolled over to next year, etc.), then leasing the LEAF in Jan. I was told the tax was in the lease payment, but I thought you had to pay it in the city where you live. On a lease, do you have to pay city and state taxes on each payment? If so that would be 9.3% and if not, 7.6%. I know about the $2000 down (first payment included) + $545 acquistition fee. So if the person had a base lease price of say $26,000 (minus the $7500), what would the approx. monthly payments be (tier 0) for a 36 and 48 mos. lease before taxes? Thanks!BrendanDolan wrote:I'm going to lease mine for a few reasons. While I know it's smarter to buy something and own it till it's next to dead, I am going to lease because:
1. Don't have to worry about the tax credit. Nissan passes that right along.
2. First model year car jitters (not for the electric part, it's just that I've been around new cars for years, and first model year ones teethe sometimes)
3. What other EV will be out in 4 years that I can get?