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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:54 am
by gillmj24
Took delivery on Monday 12/28, yes, one of the 2 blue ones they had last week with the $99 lease special (with quite a bit down though, so I negotiated slightly better terms for myself). I gave them a VPP code, but my contract/bill of sale doesn't mention it and Nissan is telling me to use my code before it expires, so I'm not sure they used it. I don't see why not, as that's money from Nissan but they gave me the 0 down with ___ payment I asked for, so no complaints.

Started the online process with both rebates, hopefully my temporary registration will suffice for them. Thanks!

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:04 am
by gillmj24
LeftieBiker wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:08 am
As a last resort, consider using that 120 20A circuit for an aftermarket EVSE that can pull 16 amps at 120 volts. You should be able to add about 3% charge per hour with that setup, as opposed to about 2% per hour with the Nissan EVSE on a 120 volt circuit.
Thanks. Once commuting starts back up again, we will see how badly we need to upgrade anything. I would still need to run a new circuit from that 20A breaker to the front of the house instead of the backyard. (Breaker panel is on opposite side of the house from the garage).

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:14 am
by Flyct
gillmj24 wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:41 am
My breaker panel is 100% full. I did fill the last spot a few years ago with a 20A 120V breaker that was meant for a backyard project that didn't materialize, so I could perhaps use that circuit... Maybe swapping things around I could get 240V without upgrading to 200A service? That said, 100A service with a LEAF, central air, etc, probably should be upgraded. Natural gas for the heat, stove, and dryer, so only 1 existing 240V circuit in the house, just the central air/furnace circuit (though the heater isn't drawing much electricity, it is one unit with the AC).
If able , it may be possible to free up some slots on your breaker panel using some “tandem” breakers. That’s what I did for this 60 amp sub panel. See the “tandem” breakers on the lower left side which allowed me space to put in a 40a 2340v breaker for my Leaf.


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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:50 pm
by Flyct
I replaced out the sub-panel in the above posting to include a MAIN breaker and additional spaces. Since this Sub_Panel is in a detached shed and it has more than 6 breakers code requires a MAIN Shut off in the panel. I now have a 60 amp MAIN breaker in the panel as marked.


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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:56 pm
by Oils4AsphaultOnly
Flyct wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:50 pm
I replaced out the sub-panel in the above posting to include a MAIN breaker and additional spaces. Since this Sub_Panel is in a detached shed and it has more than 6 breakers code requires a MAIN Shut off in the panel. I now have a 60 amp MAIN breaker in the panel as marked.


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Did you make sure your pumps won't run at the same time as your EVSE? Just pointing out that if everything's running at the same time, you'll trip your 60A main breaker.

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:48 pm
by Skippy
For what its worth from a Nissan dealer in central New Jersey last week:

New 2020 Leaf SV, 24 month lease, 10k/year mileage allocation.

24 month: $0 Down --> $172.16/mo or $3,000 down @ $41.63/mo
End of lease buyout: $20,400.

If you were to purchase same vehicle: $38,480 MSRP - Dealer Discounts = $29,980 - $7500 Fed Incentive = $22,480
Hence, with fed tax credit, about $2,000 cheaper than a lease. Your mileage may vary.

Remember, you DO NOT get federal tax credit for leases.
New Jersey does not charge sales tax on plug-in EVs.

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:42 pm
by LeftieBiker
Remember, you DO NOT get federal tax credit for leases.


No, but NMAC often passes some or most of it on to the lessee in another form.

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:55 pm
by Triggerhappy007
Skippy wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:48 pm
For what its worth from a Nissan dealer in central New Jersey last week:

New 2020 Leaf SV, 24 month lease, 10k/year mileage allocation.

24 month: $0 Down --> $172.16/mo or $3,000 down @ $41.63/mo
End of lease buyout: $20,400.

If you were to purchase same vehicle: $38,480 MSRP - Dealer Discounts = $29,980 - $7500 Fed Incentive = $22,480
Hence, with fed tax credit, about $2,000 cheaper than a lease. Your mileage may vary.

Remember, you DO NOT get federal tax credit for leases.
New Jersey does not charge sales tax on plug-in EVs.
The good thing about the lease is the buyout is really high. Higher than I think you can sell it for in 2 years.

If you're a resident of NJ, that $5000 EV rebate may come back this June or July.

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:22 am
by Flyct
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:56 pm
Flyct wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:50 pm
I replaced out the sub-panel in the above posting to include a MAIN breaker and additional spaces. Since this Sub_Panel is in a detached shed and it has more than 6 breakers code requires a MAIN Shut off in the panel. I now have a 60 amp MAIN breaker in the panel as marked.


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Did you make sure your pumps won't run at the same time as your EVSE? Just pointing out that if everything's running at the same time, you'll trip your 60A main breaker.
It’s been over 2 years since I installed the 40 amp line for the EVSE and it’s never tripped the home 60 amp breaker that feeds the sub panel. I did measure current draw before installing the 40 amp line to insure that I had capacity.

As measured the Pumps draw 6-7 amps each and EVSE draws 30; amps. So with both pumps running and the ESEV charging the current draw maxes out at 42-44 amps.

Plus the car is programmed to charge overnight while we are sleeping, so rarely do either pump run because no water is being used.

I actually occasionally but rarely plug my RV into the 14-50R receptacle. Even with both AC units running in the RV (separate 120v legs) and water heater on electric it never exceeds 30 amps per leg. Even thought the 14-50R line is wired with 6AWG and can easily handle 50 amps I protected the line with a 40 amp breaker rather than 50 amp to be safe.

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:57 pm
by EVforRobert
Has anyone seen if Nissan Finance is offering a rebate in Northern California to finance the leftover 2020 LEAF? I thought I saw this in January.