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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:43 am

DustanT wrote:Here is the 2015 SV carfax

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p ... tner=COO_0

This is the add on cars.com. It looks like it has 12 bars in the picture, its' a pretty crappy pic tho. I have not looked at this car in person as it's out of state.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/deta ... /overview/
From the pics, it's definitely an SV since it has a light interior. That's the only trim starting from model year 2013 that could have a light interior. For MY 2013 to 2015 (and possibly thru '17), SV can also have black cloth interior. S is black cloth only. SL is black leather only.

I can see that car has a CHAdeMO inlet, so it has the "LED Headlights + Quick Charge Port" package (see specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/ ... -press-kit). It looks like it does NOT have the premium package as the Around View Monitor camera would add coiled wire to the front camera (under the Nissan hamburger).

It isn't that uncommon for ads to misrepresent the car's equipment level or trim. Sometimes it's a shady dealer and other times it's just that they don't know Leafs well.
(As reference, a '13 SL w/premium package is at http://sfbayleafs.org/commentary/2013/0 ... s-changed/. Pic under "Charging port hatch with remote keyfob release and light, option to lock the plug in place" shows the coiled wire for camera. I used to lease a '13 SV w/light interior and both packages. I now own a used '13 SV w/black interior w/premium package only.)

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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:53 pm

I spoke with my boss at work and he thinks getting a 220v outlet shouldn't be to big problem. So if I can charge at both places on the fast charger I "should" be ok. My garage is heated all winter so the cold is only a factor while its at work. But with the charger I'm thinking its ok.

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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:10 pm

We get what you mean, but a quick terminology refresher will help future readers. US grid power is now 120/240 volts, and the 120 and 240 volt charging cables and stations are called either that or the less user-friendly "EVSE." If no one has mentioned EVSE Upgrade for the OEM charging cable yet, look into that. It will let you charge at 240 volts, 16 amps.
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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:34 pm

OK I see the upgrade looks like a 3 prong plug with a lip, we have this at work for equipment to plug into already. So the one hanging on walls I see is basically the same as this one?. Just needs a double pull 30amp with the same style female connector installed it looks like.

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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:24 pm

Sounds like OP has access to workplace charging, and/or the boss is willing to help make it possible. So a 24kwh leaf might very well work (except for maybe the scenario where you've lost 3 bars, and it's below 0 F outside). So the only issue remaining is price.

And I think this posting might help with that: http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=23060

market rate for 2013's seems to be ~$7k.
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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:14 pm

DustanT wrote:OK I see the upgrade looks like a 3 prong plug with a lip, we have this at work for equipment to plug into already. So the one hanging on walls I see is basically the same as this one?. Just needs a double pull 30amp with the same style female connector installed it looks like.
You can get whatever plug you need by requesting it of EVSE Upgrade while they have your charging cable, and can also get a 120 volt adapter so it will still charge at that voltage as well.
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Re: From truck to leaf?

Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:49 pm

DustanT wrote:OK I see the upgrade looks like a 3 prong plug with a lip, we have this at work for equipment to plug into already. So the one hanging on walls I see is basically the same as this one?. Just needs a double pull 30amp with the same style female connector installed it looks like.
be advised that there are multiple options. They used to provide either a L6-20 or L6-30 (number is the circuit breaker amps). We have many different types at work, including 3-phase which look similar but ARE NOT compatible! You can look at a diagram of all NEMA plug types at Wikipedia. For additional help, take a picture of the outlet and send it to evseupgrade.
Also, make sure you pay for the electricity and get approved in writing so that other jealous gas drivers don't complain about "free gas"
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Re: From truck to leaf?

Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:40 pm

DustanT wrote:OK I see the upgrade looks like a 3 prong plug with a lip, we have this at work for equipment to plug into already. So the one hanging on walls I see is basically the same as this one?. Just needs a double pull 30amp with the same style female connector installed it looks like.
If your Leaf is indeed a '15 with a 6.6kw charger I would NOT suggest the EVSEupgrade route, it will only give you up to 16a which is far less than the Leaf is capable of(only gains you ~16% battery charge per 1hr on a 24kwh Leaf). If you were OK with ~7hrs to recharge your battery from a very low state of charge(cutting it pretty close for an 8hr work day when at times you may need close to 100% of the battery to make it to work) I would instead suggest one of the several other EVSEs that are priced about the same as upgrading your existing EVSE. In your case and especially since it sounds like your work is willing to let you charge at 240v I'd really suggest a 30a portable EVSE, assuming your work has a 30a outlet.
If your work has a variety of 240v outlets you can use this handy reference chart to see how many volts and amps the outlet is rated at max.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector go down a couple pages and chart is on right.
With a 20a EVSE expect to gain ~20%/hr which would take ~5hrs for a low battery, the best would be a 30a outlet(24a continuous draw) which should gain you ~25%/hr or 4hrs to recharge your battery.
Finding a portable 30a EVSE isn't as easy or cheap as a 16a EVSE(which start ~$300) but they are available from ~$400 and up.
I've kind of standardized on the L6-30 plug and have made several different adapters to go from that to a variety of 240v and 120v outlets. My Juicebox EVSE which goes up to 40a used the Tesla standard 14-50 plug so I've also made adapters to go from that to a variety of 240v and 120v outlets.

Even with your short commute if running moderate heat and temps in the teens or cooler and maybe snowing, you should be able to make your work, assuming your Leaf has all bars or maybe only missing one. 1/2 way charging in such situations will be critical and for most of the day(depends on your charging rate) I would NOT suggest this with only L1 charging, again except for summer when L1 would probably fine, heck with a 12 bar Leaf you could probably make it RT without a charge but again return with basically an empty battery.
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Re: From truck to leaf?

Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:00 pm

Wow lots of info to read through here thanks a lot guys. Can someone explain the incentives? I called a dealer near me and asked if I could get some info on a leaf they asked what was a leaf. Needless to say I said uh never mind and hung up. What is the real price of the car and how is the incentive applied.

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Re: From truck to leaf?

Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:00 pm

DustanT wrote:Wow lots of info to read through here thanks a lot guys. Can someone explain the incentives? I called a dealer near me and asked if I could get some info on a leaf they asked what was a leaf. Needless to say I said uh never mind and hung up. What is the real price of the car and how is the incentive applied.
Not sure which incentives you're referring to, but both the federal and any state incentives are for new cars only. The NMAC manufacturer and dealership incentives also apply to new vehicles only too - regardless of lease or purchase. I thought I heard of a used-car incentive in colorado, but I don't know the details of that one.

Which are you asking about?
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