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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 11:14 am

As always checkout reviews before using a service station.

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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 12:19 pm

Apparently does not list Dealerships, but Thanks.
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 12:37 pm

garygid wrote:Apparently does not list Dealerships, but Thanks.
Yes - the for dealerships the best (which isn't that good) seems to be Yelp.

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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 2:08 pm

When I bought our Acura a few years ago I went to two different dealers, did a test drive of a couple different models, did the same with other makes and when we decided on what we wanted, I knew the exact model and option combo and color. Then I called some distant dealers and asked what was the best out the door price they could give me, explaining I wasn't going to drive 80 or 100 miles without knowing they had it in stock and what the exact price was. I got two or three who said they were willing to fax me an offer with the price on it if I agreed to buy it for that price, since they knew they were never going to get me in there otherwise, so I knew it was their best offer. Then I went back in person to the first place we visited (nearest our home) and asked for them to give me best price. When it was higher, I told them I had a lower price from another dealer but preferred to do business with them since they took the time to give us our test drive if they could just match the price. They wouldn't budge so I shopped around by phone at some other local dealers and found one where the sales manager by chance was a guy I used to work with. I asked for his best price and he gave me a higher number but I told him the lower number I had from the other (distant) dealer. He agreed to match it, but said he would have to dealer trade to get the exact model and color. We agreed to everything over the phone since I was paying cash and we trusted each other, but I insisted on getting it in writing, and once I agreed to that price he did fax me an offer with that number before I ever set foot up there. I faxed back my agreement. A few days later I drove there (30 miles away), wrote them a check and picked up the car. Fast and easy. It saved us about $350 from the local dealer's final lowest price, maybe $1,000 from some of the quotes. The point is, it pays to shop around. A lot of shopping around; and start by phone far away so that they know you aren't going to come in unless you get a final price over the phone or fax. Obviously that's a lot easier if you can pay cash. If you have to finance, or need to pick options, then the credit check and all that gets in the way. There are 13 Leaf-certified dealers within 40 miles of my zip code, so I'm ready to do it again if necessary.
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 2:18 pm

Rat wrote:There are 13 Leaf-certified dealers within 40 miles of my zip code, so I'm ready to do it again if necessary.
Many of us have already done this. I've in writing from two dealers saying they won't charge above MSRP.

I wrote this in some other place - there are two things very different with Leaf than all other cars - including ones in great demand that are booked in advance.

- International news. Leaf will make international news as it is sold. I wouldn't be surprised if the local governor or mayor is not at hand to give out the keys to the first buyers. That also means a lot of press. I'm sure none of the dealers want the buyer to crib about gauging in that situation.

- $7,500 tax credit. The government isn't offering credit so dealers can make money over MSRP. I consider that unethical and will not tolerate it. I'll make sure anyone who tries that in Seattle area will be featured in a stinker story on the front page of Seattle Times.
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sat May 22, 2010 6:23 pm

Next time I go to a local dealer, I think I will inquire about "making the LEAF deal", and what happens if I cannot close when the LEAF is delivered.
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Fri May 28, 2010 12:22 pm

Bicster wrote:My assumption is that they are not related to the Mossy locations out west.
Bad assumption, btw. It's the same family. :oops:
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:59 pm

Dealerships matter.

I basically picked mine out of a hat (closest Nissan dealer). The "Internet Sales Mgr" that I made the deal with was gone by the time the car came. New internet mgr was very accommodating, but I was the first delivery for my dealership (March 26).

All was fine until I showed up pre-approved with my credit union loan and the sales manager came out. First "dealership policy" is to pre-install a collection of useless doohickeys on the car (invisible window etching, invisible upholstery protection, which may or may not actually exist): retail price $1,995 but Yours for the internet discount of $995!!. We wound up paying $300 for it just to get out of there. Also, they wouldn't write a purchase contract for me to take back to my credit union (again "dealership policy"), so I was held hostage to Nissan financing, which fortunately they matched the CU's interest rate.

Moral of the story: some dealerships (and Puente Hills Nissan in particular) are taking advantage of the LEAF enthusasts' enthusiasm and adding costs/conditions at the last minute. Your "Internet Sales Manager" doesn't set the rules for the dealership, and may either not know them all or not be eager to disclose them, even if you visit the dealership a week before delivery (as I did).

Caveat emptor, folks.
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:12 pm

Congrats EricH !! Sorry to hear about that..
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Re: How are you choosing a dealership?

Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:25 pm

One GREAT value of this forum is the identification of some really good, honest folks that we have found to deal with (examples: Danny in previous post, and Leon in San Diego).

Also, we tend to identify those to avoid. :)
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