queuetee wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:21 pm
To be honest, I don't see how Nissan can sell SL Leaf Plus with 45K price range.
VW ID4 SUV will sell in US this Chrismas for 40K with 250 miles range, a much better car
Mustang March E will sell around 43K, way much better car
Its own car, the Ariya, will sell around 40K too, and this is like 10 times better than the Leaf
and there is a Tesla Model 3 starts at 37K. The argument of no Fed Tax of $7,500 is valid here. Because of this, I myself is thinking to get the Leaf. If there was not $7,500, I would have taken Model 3 over the Leaf any day.
How can the Nissan Leaf Plus compete with those cars? Why put up a high MSRP 45K, then you give a huge discount every month. I bet no one in the world would spend that money to buy 45K MSRP.
Is very interesting to see how car makers will compete with Tesla in EVs. The only advantage they have now is tax-credit.
I do agree that the Leaf has always been ridiculously overpriced. However, I have to say I choked on your reference to these 3 "future"cars, especially the VW, being a "way better car."
I dream of owning a VAG product in the future, because I love their overall concept, but after the QC issues of the last decade, and having been burned by the diesel fiasco, I wouldn't ever think of them as being "better" in any way. Conceptually, perhaps, but not in a road-worthy way.
As for the MustangE and the Ariya, they're not even rolling yet.
In my experience, buying used, it has been by far the "best" in cost of ownership and reliability: 4 1/2 years, 40k miles: wiper blades, cabin filter, 12v battery, tires (accident too one out, decided to replace all 4)