srl99
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:57 pm

It's covered by the CA emissions warranty ...

(I suspect the salesperson will not object to his contact info being here, as long as you call him to buy the car):


" Yes, it was originally titled in CA and has a emission-battery warrenty! I have appointment for the Leaf in the morning, is there any way you can come in tonight?



Barret Horiuchi

Fleet/Internet/Client Manager

Keyes Chevy



818-515-9021 (Call or Text)"
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cwerdna
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:11 pm

jspearman wrote:
EdmondLeaf wrote:below 20K$ retail
http://www.keyeschevy.com/vehicle/2011- ... 24326.html

2011 Nissan LEAF
SL Hatchback 4D Hatchback
Mileage: 7713
VIN: JN1AZ0CP9BT007570
Ext Color: Super Black
NOW: $19,995
Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Interesting... I wouldn't ever buy a black car, but it'll be interesting to see what used '11s and '12s go for once the '13 is out.

If it was in a mild climate, I might be tempted to buy a used one instead of leasing a new '13...

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

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TomT
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:48 pm

Well, considering I paid about 33K for mine and got 12,500 back in rebates, I'm pretty close to that for a brand new one...
jspearman wrote:Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Leaf SL 2011 to 2016, Volt Premier 2016 to 2019, and now:
2019 Model 3; LR, RWD, FSD, 19" Sport Wheels, silver/black; built 3/17/19, delivered 3/29/19.

cwerdna
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:52 pm

TomT wrote:Well, considering I paid about 33K for mine and got 12,500 back in rebates, I'm pretty close to that for a brand new one...
jspearman wrote:Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Yeah, the $7500 Federal tax credit and former $5000 CVRP (now only $2500) and '12 Leaf price increase makes pricing kinda screwy.

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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:27 pm

cwerdna wrote:
TomT wrote:Well, considering I paid about 33K for mine and got 12,500 back in rebates, I'm pretty close to that for a brand new one...
jspearman wrote:Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Yeah, the $7500 Federal tax credit and former $5000 CVRP (now only $2500) and '12 Leaf price increase makes pricing kinda screwy.
IMO used car prices are based on demand and supply not what one paid for the new car, my state do not have any credit /rebate for EV

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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:13 pm

srl99 wrote:It's covered by the CA emissions warranty ...
I'm pretty sure the emissions warranty only applies to cars that HAVE emissions, like HEV/PHEVs. No special battery warranty on LEAF in CA.
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mxp
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:52 pm

jspearman wrote:
EdmondLeaf wrote:below 20K$ retail
http://www.keyeschevy.com/vehicle/2011- ... 24326.html

2011 Nissan LEAF
SL Hatchback 4D Hatchback
Mileage: 7713
VIN: JN1AZ0CP9BT007570
Ext Color: Super Black
NOW: $19,995
Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Wow.... I am a bit shock to see that price actually. I wonder how much valuation will I get if I tried to trade in our Leaf and get back into a regular car....

gaswalla
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:33 pm

mxp wrote:
jspearman wrote:
EdmondLeaf wrote:below 20K$ retail
http://www.keyeschevy.com/vehicle/2011- ... 24326.html

2011 Nissan LEAF
SL Hatchback 4D Hatchback
Mileage: 7713
VIN: JN1AZ0CP9BT007570
Ext Color: Super Black
NOW: $19,995
Stunning. 20k retail for what's essentially a brand new car. This car will be the most expensive lesson I've ever learned.
Wow.... I am a bit shock to see that price actually. I wonder how much valuation will I get if I tried to trade in our Leaf and get back into a regular car....
the resale dealers cannot move them off the lot anymore: If they are asking 21k, they will probably sell for 19k or even less.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale ... edpriceASC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

think about it: would you buy any car that had a usable life of another 2 years or 25k miles for 20k? on the other hand, at what price would you unload such a car? The free market will end up at a price less than 10k IMHO. (if Nissan steps in and puts a floor on the price, as needed, this won't happen... How much faith do you have in Nissan?)

There is hope though: something sort of similar happened a long time ago, and the cars values have recovered
http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_fo ... Ford_Pinto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:43 pm

The big unknown is the replacement battery cost. Buyer just starts deducting the cost or no sale. Until there is a real price the buyer will want a big discount just in case.
1 bar lost at 21,451 miles, 16 months.
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gaswalla
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Re: Wholesale value of the 2011 Leaf @Auction

Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:10 pm

smkettner wrote:The big unknown is the replacement battery cost. Buyer just starts deducting the cost or no sale. Until there is a real price the buyer will want a big discount just in case.
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/07/13/pl ... ith-drama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's a 24 kwh battery in the LEAF - if it's currently $600/kwh, then $14,400 would be an estimated cost PLUS installation

If the price "dramatically" falls to $250 as predicted in a few years, the battery will only be $6000 PLUS installation one day soon

Not sure where that rumor of a $5k battery came from, but it certainly is not true.

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