kovalb
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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:36 pm

I signed up for the Blink Plus membership months ago since it was no charge and no risk. However once the $30 fee goes into effect I plan to demote my membership to Basic. I will also not plan to use any public charging once fees are enforced. I already plan trips so that public charging is not necessary. The reason is because I cannot be guaranteed that any given public charging station will be operating and available when I would need to use it (broken, ICE-ed, or in use). There is still always the chance I might need or want to use public charging in the future, but I think my usage would be minimal unless things change.

What would need to change to make me increase my usage of public charging? Two things:
1. Keep it free for consumers. A business model similar to WiFi needs to be adopted whereby businesses absorb the costs as a marketing expense in order to attract valuable customers.
2. Institute a reliable reservation system whereby we can reserve a station and know for sure we will be able to use it when we get there.

There is actually a third thing that would make me want to use public charging more. Nissan announced that a 6kW charger will become available. Since I would be able to get essentially twice as much energy as I can with my '11 LEAF (about 4 bars/hours vs. 2 bars/hr.) it would make public charging more useful.
Had six Nissan LEAFs in five years. Hope to get another.
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DaveEV
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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:59 pm

kovalb wrote:What would need to change to make me increase my usage of public charging?
You missed another option - plentiful charging stations scattered everywhere so one is never far from one and has plenty of choices.

Unfortunately, this won't happen unless companies putting these in can get some sort of revenue flow. Installing and maintaining public charging stations is not cheap or easy.

I am disappointed that charging will be billed by the hour - IMO it should be billed in no more than $0.50 increments. No one wants to feel ripped off or feel like they have to stay close to a full hour.

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:01 am

Volusiano wrote:
Blink wrote:Volusiano,

If you choose to change your Blink Plus membership at a later date, all you'll have to do is re-choose the new membership of your choice when ready. Also, your membership calendar year starts on the day you sign up. For example: If you signed up today - July 10, 2012 - your membership will expire on July 10, 2013. Thanks for the question!
Can you give me some additional clarification? It says "Upgrade now and we'll waive your annual fee of $30 membership dues for 2012".

If I signed up for a Basic Membership recently (let's say July 1st, 2012). I then just upgraded today (July 10, 2012). When will be I charge with a renewal fee of $30? January 1st 2013? Or July 1st 2013? Or July 10th, 2013?

One more question: I logged back on your website and don't see any date record of when I signed up recently for the basic membership. Without this information shown, how are people supposed to remember what date they signed up for their membership?
I'm puzzled why Blink has not answered my follow-up questions??? They don't know the answer???

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Randy
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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:11 am

ENIAC wrote:
Randy, sounds like you're a fanboy. (As long as we're making judgement calls) I'm not at all upset with the government paying for the initial public EVSE deployments also I whole heartedly support public charging (I use it several times a week), just not from companies who failed to keep up their end of the bargain. The EV Project should have been recompeted a year and a half ago. If it had, maybe there would have been QCs throughout SoCal.
Just checked back into the thread...

Fanboy, huh? :)

Ordered LEAF early (as soon as website opened) - check
Received LEAF #10 in the US - check
Drove LEAF home from Fontana Nissan in January 2011 (111 miles on Day 1 with very little public charging - by the way) - check
Love the car and talk it up to anyone who will listen - check
Continuing passionate supporter of EVs and public charging - check
Working full time at SDG&E in the Clean Transportation to help improve the EV and infrastructure experience - check
Current focus is working with commercial customers and EVSPs such as ECOtality, NRG and others to help facilitate charging sites and electrical infrastructure - check
Spending much of my off time also working on EV and charging issues - check
Took 850 mile LEAF roadtrip this Spring with my son, relying totally on public charging - check
Want to see as much public charging infrastructure as possible (knowing this convinces many people to buy cars) - check
Planning on using as much public charging infrastructure as much as possible myself - check
Trying to convince others to help support it too so it's there long-term - check

Fanboy? Shrugs shoulders... If that's the name you want to use, go for it...My cards are on the table...I'd like to think I'm walking the talk...

Despite your posting, I'd still like to try and convince you to use the public charging infrastructure once in awhile to help support it :)

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:18 am

Randy,

While my motivations and goals are not the same as yours, I applaud you for your commitment and integrity. You are most definately walking the talk!

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:16 pm

Volusiano wrote:
Volusiano wrote:
Blink wrote:Volusiano,

If you choose to change your Blink Plus membership at a later date, all you'll have to do is re-choose the new membership of your choice when ready. Also, your membership calendar year starts on the day you sign up. For example: If you signed up today - July 10, 2012 - your membership will expire on July 10, 2013. Thanks for the question!
Can you give me some additional clarification? It says "Upgrade now and we'll waive your annual fee of $30 membership dues for 2012".

If I signed up for a Basic Membership recently (let's say July 1st, 2012). I then just upgraded today (July 10, 2012). When will be I charge with a renewal fee of $30? January 1st 2013? Or July 1st 2013? Or July 10th, 2013?

One more question: I logged back on your website and don't see any date record of when I signed up recently for the basic membership. Without this information shown, how are people supposed to remember what date they signed up for their membership?
I'm puzzled why Blink has not answered my follow-up questions??? They don't know the answer???
Try asking them at http://blinkshare.blinknetwork.com/blink I know that site is a direct link; not so sure about how often they check MNL.
Had six Nissan LEAFs in five years. Hope to get another.
Retired Nissan Employee (NTCNA-AZ). Opinions expressed here are my own.

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:47 pm

Randy wrote:Just checked back into the thread...

Fanboy, huh? :)
Go back and read my original comment in context. My comment meant "Fanboy of ECOtality and their BLINK network" because that is what this thread is about, right? And that was in response to what you wrote.
Randy wrote:Sounds like you're upset because the government will be spending too much for the stations (you do know that the $100M hasn't been paid out yet, right?), and there aren't enough of them installed yet. But in the end, you don't like the price to use them anyways, which nullifies your argument. Of course they want to install more units, and they're working on it feverishly. In San Diego, they've installed double your 10% amount with many more on the way...
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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:35 pm

Volusiano wrote:
Volusiano wrote:
Blink wrote:Volusiano,

If you choose to change your Blink Plus membership at a later date, all you'll have to do is re-choose the new membership of your choice when ready. Also, your membership calendar year starts on the day you sign up. For example: If you signed up today - July 10, 2012 - your membership will expire on July 10, 2013. Thanks for the question!
Can you give me some additional clarification? It says "Upgrade now and we'll waive your annual fee of $30 membership dues for 2012".

If I signed up for a Basic Membership recently (let's say July 1st, 2012). I then just upgraded today (July 10, 2012). When will be I charge with a renewal fee of $30? January 1st 2013? Or July 1st 2013? Or July 10th, 2013?

One more question: I logged back on your website and don't see any date record of when I signed up recently for the basic membership. Without this information shown, how are people supposed to remember what date they signed up for their membership?
I'm puzzled why Blink has not answered my follow-up questions??? They don't know the answer???
My apologies - I thought this post had gone through successfully and it did not. :/
If you choose to upgrade your membership, your anniversary date for the month/year will currently stay as your original sign up date. However, we are working on getting this changed soon. Also, we are hoping to have the membership sign up date information available within a future release. Thanks again for the questions!

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:07 pm

For me, stuck here in the midwest, irrespective of who is responsible for the network - here it's ChargePoint (2) and Charjit (3); I have my 220v charger at home and would never use L2 when out. L3, yes; but around here, it's almost impossible in suburbia (of Chicago) to find a WORKING Charjit L3.

The 3 near me have all been installed for 6 MONTHS and still do not work, yet they want to charge $7 per "refill".

Sorry if that's off topic as it's not Blink.

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Re: Blink Membership Rollout Starts Today in Maricopa County

Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:36 pm

Hey All,

We have posted a new thread informing all Arizona Blink users that membership software has gone state-wide: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=9460" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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