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Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:06 pm
by SageBrush
iPlug wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:11 pm
Also, I believe there are often generation contracts that have to be executed that take precedence over home PV solar. So during these times, the grid truly does not need or want our stinkin’ home solar PV. :D
This.

I get fussy when people conflate PV excess with fossil choice.
Nuclear is certainly some of the 'protected' power but by no means all or even the majority.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:27 am
by iPlug
Agree, in most U.S. places PV excess can and should replace fossil choice, and this should not be protected by contract or otherwise.

Most States (unfortunately) have a long way to go before PV is crowding out other non-renewables on the duck curve. Places with coal and non-peaker natural gas are probably among the worst. States with lots of hydro also probably have a way to go as they can throttle back hydro generation somewhat during peak PV generation and function more as a battery to export more hydro electricity to neighboring States.

In CA, we have no coal and most NG is peaker plants, so the rest is non-CO2 generating and almost all of that is renewable. I can't speak to the contracts peaker plants have, so there may be work to improve here.

CA by far leads in PV installations and we're already at ~20% total system electricity generation (including home "being the meter" generation"). In less than 4 months all new houses in CA have to come with enough PV for net zero solar generation and this will happen in the near future in commercial buildings as well. So I think it make sense for the benefit of the home PV consumers and grid to continue to allow annual net metering but shift everyone to more grid sensible TOU plans.

The CPUC should promise home PV users a certain minimum number of years on a rate plan so they can make economically informed PV purchases. I did not read the fine print, and not sure there was any on our current generous E6 TOU plan we signed up for in 2012, but we will get ~10 years on that before we are un-grandfathered. On the E6 rate plan, they started notifying customers a few years ago that it would be terminated as such.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:11 am
by SageBrush
iPlug wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:27 am
"being the meter" generation").
:) I think you mean 'behind the meter.'

I agree, CA is a role model for the USA. It is truly remarkable, particularly given the bumbling and uber-burdensome bureaucracy.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:10 am
by iPlug
Hah, yes, autocorrect is not always helpful, still need to proofread.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:48 pm
by GRA
Now I'm disappointed - "being the meter" following Yoga would be so appropriate for say Marin county, clearly requiring one of the higher Zen states of mind ;)

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:24 pm
by PianoAl
As the owner of a Leaf S, I can tell the charging timer when I want the charging to be complete, but it has to be the same for all days of the week. Yes?

Often we're down to say, 10% charge at the end of a day. We never need the car before 8 AM except on one day during the week. If I tell it to complete charging at 8 AM, then it will often start before the cheap period begins.

I'll have to figure something out.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:56 pm
by iPlug
Quite right. We must become the zen generation of “being the meter” and becoming one with TOU.

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:11 pm
by PianoAl
Anyone know exactly when this switch will happen?

I got a 30-Day Notice from PG&E which said "The EV-A plan is closing in November when customers will be automatically transitioned to the new ..."

But they don't say when in November. Nov 1? Nov 15, Nov 30?

What's wrong with those people?

At least they no longer have charts with 25 hours per day.

Anyone know when I'll be automatically switched over?

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:43 pm
by Calaveras
I received the same letter, I am assuming it will be effective at the beginning of the November billing period

Re: PG&E closing enrollment to EV-A plan; now EV2-A is out

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm
by iPlug
For other energy data junkies here who haven't seen this website, highly recommended:

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/supply.aspx

It shows CA real time grid load and sources (solar, wind, natural gas, etc). Historical data is also available.