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SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:32 pm
by electricfuture
A new rate called EV-TOU for Domestic Households with EV became effective Sept. 1, 2011.

The new rate is Super Off Peak both winter and summer of $0.10831.

I am on the $0.14 Study "X" rate currently with a separate meter so this would be a savings. I have requested a rate schedule change (off the study) - I'll post what happens.

Remember that all of the study rates expire Nov. 30, 2012, so this is probably the rate all of us with a separate meter will have after that date.

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:24 pm
by Randy
Let me weigh in here, Electricfuture...

First of all, EV-TOU is not a new rate. There was a revision with that 9/1/2011 date, so I'm suspecting that's what you might have seen. Other rate schedule documents were also modified on that date. Similiarly, EV-TOU2 is an existing whole house TOU rate that has been available to PEV owners for awhile, and it was revised on 9/1 as well.

I know it can be confusing, but make sure when you compare rates that you also look at the total rate INCLUDING the Electric Energy Commodity Cost (Schedule EECC). I believe the 10.8 cents you quoted from Schedule EV-TOU doesn't include the EECC portion, but you were comparing to the X rate all-in.

The experimental rates are temporary and are offered to those people participating in the EV Project. After the project is over in April 2013, then EV owners with the X, Y, or Z rates will transition to an appropriate EV rate at the time (such as EV-TOU or EV-TOU2). If you leave the rate study to move to EV-TOU now, there could be an EV Project implication (I'll have to check on that)...

Link to Schedule EV-TOU:
http://www.sdge.com/tm2/pdf/ELEC_ELEC-SCHEDS_EV-TOU.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Link to Schedule EECC:
http://www.sdge.com/tm2/pdf/ELEC_ELEC-SCHEDS_EECC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If you'd like to get more information, you can send an email to ETPROGRAM@sdge.com

Thanks, Randy

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:11 pm
by lonndoggie
And here's how the two total out. Thanks for the links to the data, Randy.

EDIT: And drees!

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                        Rate        EECC       DWR-BC    TOTAL
Summer On-Peak          $0.11064    $0.13855   $0.00505  $0.25424 
Summer Off-Peak         $0.10855    $0.05425   $0.00505  $0.16785 
Summer Super Off-Peak   $0.10831    $0.03344   $0.00505  $0.14680 
   
Winter On-Peak          $0.10889    $0.06199   $0.00505  $0.17593
Winter Off-Peak         $0.10855    $0.05627   $0.00505  $0.16987 
Winter Super Off-Peak   $0.10831    $0.03520   $0.00505  $0.14856

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:28 pm
by davewill
Isn't there also a monthly meter charge with EV-TOU?

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:31 pm
by lonndoggie
davewill wrote:Isn't there also a monthly meter charge with EV-TOU?
The schedules don't say so, far as I can see, but maybe there is a third document about that. Randy?

There is a minimum daily charge of $0.17, just like with the EV Study.

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:37 pm
by TonyWilliams
Does my Super Off Peak of $0.07784 (close to that, anyway) include the EECC?

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:53 pm
by DaveEV
lonndoggie wrote:And here's how the two total out. Thanks for the links to the data, Randy.
Don't forget to add the DWR-BC charge:

http://www.sdge.com/tm2/pdf/ELEC_ELEC-SCHEDS_DWR-BC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

$0.00505 / kWh to your totals.

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:58 pm
by smkettner
14 cents is the super off-peak rate in CA while the national average is 11 cents day in day out. :o

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:57 pm
by lonndoggie
drees wrote: Don't forget to add the DWR-BC charge:

http://www.sdge.com/tm2/pdf/ELEC_ELEC-SCHEDS_DWR-BC.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

$0.00505 / kWh to your totals.
D'oh! Nickle 'n' dimin' us! Well, 1/10th of a nickle, anyway.

Table duly edited. Thanks.

Re: SDG&E Introduces New EV Rate Sept. 1, 2011

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:25 pm
by Randy
TonyWilliams wrote:Does my Super Off Peak of $0.07784 (close to that, anyway) include the EECC?
Yes, that's why it can get confusing...The X, Y, and Z rates do include the commodity charge...