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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:26 pm

greenleaf wrote:DeaneG, I think you mentioned before that you requested E9. Looks like you can't get it yet. So what is your current rate schedule?
I'm still on E1 as far as I know. I installed PV about 10 weeks ago, PG&E is slowly catching up. BTW nice chart, greenleaf! I guess I'd be mostly looking at tier 2 in winter, and tier 3 in summer though.
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:37 pm

I have an updated figure with tier 1, 2 and 3 numbers.

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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:45 pm

Can one "accidently" run the whole house on E9A?
Or, is that already a one-meter system?
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:14 pm

garygid wrote:Can one "accidently" run the whole house on E9A?
Or, is that already a one-meter system?
E9A is a one-meter rate. E9B is set up for dual meters (car / everything else).
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:15 pm

garygid wrote:Can one "accidently" run the whole house on E9A?
Or, is that already a one-meter system?
E9A is when there is only one meter and the whole house is on the E9 rate. E9B is when there is a separate meter just for charging and only the E9 rate is applied to that meter and the rest of the house is on a different rate.

I have been on the E9A rate since 1998 and it has worked well for me.

greenleaf, great chart! Is there room to put all 5 tiers on it? I do like how it points out that on the E9 rate tier one and two are the same. On e9 tiers four and five are also the same so e9 really only has 3 tiers total.
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:19 pm

greenleaf wrote:I have an updated figure with tier 1, 2 and 3 numbers.
E9a still looks like it will win overall against E6 to me. No wonder PG&E won't let me have it w/o a car.
E9a does have a larger "peak" area, but E6's "off peak" rates in the E9a peak fringes are not much better than E9a anyway.
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 pm

DeaneG wrote:
greenleaf wrote:I have an updated figure with tier 1, 2 and 3 numbers.
E9a still looks like it will win overall against E6 to me. No wonder PG&E won't let me have it w/o a car.
E9a does have a larger "peak" area, but E6's "off peak" rates in the E9a peak fringes are not much better than E9a anyway.
Based on the hourly usage data that I partly managed to save before PG&E wiped them out (when my Smartmeter was removed), E6 and E9a are almost a wash after I have my EV.

In summer, E6 is better, but in winter E9a is better. And because you can only switch once a year, you have to pick only one.

I think in the end, I would probably go with E6 because the timing is less restrictive (easier to tell my wife to do laundry after 9pm instead of after midnight!)
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:22 pm

Not sure if there is anyone else in Pleasanton on this thread, but just in case....I'm getting my EVSE installed today and the city REQUIRES a 200 amp service on the main panel to install any EVSE. They even had the AV make and model listed, so there was no getting around it. So not only did I just updated my sub panel, but now I have to drop another $1,500 plus another permit fee for the main. It would have been nice if the $100 I paid AV would have given me the heads up, or if PG&E knew about it when they came out and did their inspection. Oh well, the good news is that I'm having my contractor (not AV) put in a second panel at the main that will qualify me for the E9b rate.

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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:11 pm

It appears that going down to the appropriate "Building Department" and discussing THEIR requirements for a hard-wired EVSE ... would be a helpful thing to do.

Perhaps duscussing 120v plug-in EV charging, then 240v plug-in, could also be useful.
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Re: Official California PG&E Thread

Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:15 pm

Ready2plugin wrote:Not sure if there is anyone else in Pleasanton on this thread, but just in case....I'm getting my EVSE installed today and the city REQUIRES a 200 amp service on the main panel to install any EVSE.
Ouch! If Foster City had the same requirement when I got my EVSE installed I would not have done the install and that in turn would have meant no EV for me. I am certainly glad they did not. I have a 100 amp service and it is simply not practical for me to upgrade.
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