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PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV market

Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:39 pm

I just got a call from PG&E asking what type of EV I have, how long I've had it, and whether I charge at Level 1 or 2. The rep said that the purpose of the call was to help assess the load on the currently installed lines and transformers.

He mentioned that the Cupertino area has the highest density of EVs out of all of their markets, with applications (besides many Leafs) for a couple of ActiveE BMWs and a Fisker Karma.

EDIT: oops, should have posted in the PG&E thread.
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:21 pm

DeaneG wrote:He mentioned that the Cupertino area has the highest density of EVs out of all of their markets, with applications (besides many Leafs) for a couple of ActiveE BMWs and a Fisker Karma.
I need to get out of the house more often and away from the computer. I live in Cupertino and very seldom see a LEAF or other type of EV. Of course I don't commute to an office so I try to stay off the roads during commuter time.

DeaneG, do you agree with PGE's statement above?
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:26 pm

Cupertino is actually not that large an area so in terms of density it might be high but is likely not that high in terms of absolute numbers...
linkim wrote:DeaneG, do you agree with PGE's statement above?
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:43 pm

I assume when PGE is talking about density, they are not referring to area, but is based on some parameter related to population density. For example, based on number of households (about 20,100), out of a total population of about 58,300 (2010 census) for Cupertino.
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:38 am

Palo Alto is likely the highest density in the Bay Area, I see a Leaf or Volt all the time, and count at least 4 EVs (1 tesla, 2 leafs, 1 volt) within a 2 block radius.

Good thing we get to pay Palo Alto Utility instead of PG&E ($0.095, $0.13, and $0.17/kwh for the three tiers), which is much cheaper =)

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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:52 am

Drive through the Apple campus, that's where you'll find them...

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Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:13 am

I live in Cupertino and we have two EVs, they called today and asked for me but were wise enough to see if my wife could answer their questions.

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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:04 am

I bet Nissan has a dot map display that shows the data reporting world LEAF density in real time just like the air traffic.

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Just a little hop from Cupertino to Sunnyvale there are 3 LEAFS on the same block that park outside the garage. I have seen a couple more going into garages another block over so there are many EV's around here. We had a map at one time to show our orders but haven't looked at it recently. Now about the PG&E power demand -- the CAISO website shows the current power demand for California and it currently ranges from 20 to 30 GWatts and one division on the chart is 1GWatt which would require 260,000 LEAFs on at the same time to move it one division. Now if we could get 26,000 in California and could sync them up then a wee wiggle of 1/10 division might just be visible.
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:58 am

spotting EVs in the Bay area might only be where EV owners work. commuting to Palo Alto is common considering its a small area, half the town most people would not be caught dead living there (for fear of death!) etc. now, i have not been in that area for 25 years so hopefully it has gotten better, but East Palo Alto was not a good idea.

considering how many EVs there are, density means nothing this early in the game. that is like an area having 1 verses another area having zero. the density ratings mean nothing
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Re: PG&E called; Cupertino is their highest density EV marke

Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:46 am

linkim wrote:...DeaneG, do you agree with PGE's statement above?
Can't speak for all of Cupertino, but there are two Leafs on my block and another couple I see often, so I don't doubt it. We certainly fit the demographic.
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