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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue May 12, 2020 6:46 am

danrjones wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 6:13 am
What about others like chargepoint, normally 50kw stations? Can they even do 800v and you end up at half the amps? Or not at all?
Not at all, at most most of them.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue May 12, 2020 6:23 pm

danrjones wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 6:13 am
I thought EA was good with 800v?

Yes, EA's "350 kW" stations can charge 800 - 1,000 volt packs, but are limited to 350A max, which is why a Taycan or any car with an 800V pack is limited to no more than 270kW charging - 800*350 = 270,000 watts (270kW).
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed May 13, 2020 6:04 pm

IEVS: Exclusive: Electrify America Will Transition To Pay By kWh Pricing, And More

https://insideevs.com/news/423141/elect ... ay-by-kwh/.

. . . The departure from their current pay-by-time model was undoubtedly inspired by California's decision to require EV charging stations to charge according to the amount of energy given to the vehicle, and not by how long the car was connected to the charging station.

The California legislation applies to all newly-installed Level 2 chargers beginning in 2021, and to new DC fast chargers beginning in 2023. Chargers installed before 2021 can continue to use time-based billing until 2031 (for Level 2 chargers) or 2033 (for DC fast chargers).

"We totally believe this is the right decision and we don't want to wait until 2023. We're going to implement this well ahead of 2023" - Electrify America CEO Giovanni Palazzo on transitioning from a time-based charging methiod to kWh based. . . ."

Palazzo said that the company will offer the pay-by-kWh pricing wherever they are allowed to, and only stick with the time-based pricing in states where charging by the kWh isn't allowed. . . .

While we think this is great news, we'll have to wait to see what the cost structure is. . . .
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu May 14, 2020 3:27 pm

EA realized they had provided newer chademo EVs with a price advantage and took steps to remedy it.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu May 14, 2020 5:37 pm

I doubt CHAdeMO pricing was a factor for them, as it's irrelevant to their plans.

EVgo pricing may be a factor, but as they remain mostly restricted to urban areas, EA still has a virtual monopoly on rural interstates. We can all be thankful that California is forcing the change, as per kWh pricing is both the fairest and easiest to compare, once we get enough stations to provide competition.

What I want to see is price/kWh vary by charging rate, to give us the equivalent of Regular/Mid-Grade/Premium, and which should keep the higher rate chargers free for those who need them.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu May 28, 2020 6:50 am

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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu May 28, 2020 4:51 pm

^^^ List updated. With Camarillo (#429, 9/1/0) it's now reasonably practical to drive 101 from Santa Rosa to LA.

There's still a gap between S.R. and Eureka, awaiting the opening of at least one of the two "Coming soon" sites to complete the northern section on 101. And we'll need Soledad, Greenfield or both to open, plus one more site between Pismo Beach and Camarillo to make the southern part of 101 both easy and convenient in both directions.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri May 29, 2020 4:53 pm

Six sites have been added to the "Coming soon" list, making 116 to go with the 429 open. I believe Katy, TX is one; not sure about the rest.
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