WHAT blends right in???DaveinOlyWA wrote: lets face it, we are bombarded by these tools now
"Kids eat free"
"buffets noon to 3 PM mon-fri"
"buy one get 2nd ½ off"
"Free EV charging"
look at that!! it blends right in!!

WHAT blends right in???DaveinOlyWA wrote: lets face it, we are bombarded by these tools now
"Kids eat free"
"buffets noon to 3 PM mon-fri"
"buy one get 2nd ½ off"
"Free EV charging"
look at that!! it blends right in!!
I put this card on my dash so others know how to get hold of me and how long I need to charge. But connectivity would help.ranchleaf wrote: There are no timers currently on any EVSE that I know of that will tell you how long someone is going to be charging.
The card is great as a starter for sure, but as you noted about connectivity, being able to get it on your phone or portable device it will be great to know before you show up at the site. Could even add options like OK to pull connector out after X number of hours as well.KeiJidosha wrote:I put this card on my dash so others know how to get hold of me and how long I need to charge. But connectivity would help.ranchleaf wrote: There are no timers currently on any EVSE that I know of that will tell you how long someone is going to be charging.
http://www.evchargernews.com/chargeprotocolcard.pdf
Jimmydreams wrote:My thoughts exactly.DaveinOlyWA wrote:i think that it will be months if not at least a year before any area is inundated with Leafs to cause a line up at the charging stations. hopefully synergy of the idea will have taken off by then and many many more will be in the works. i still fully believe that the private sector will take off with the idea when they see the level of adoption of the technology
If someone snapped their fingers and suddenly 10% of the vehicles on the road were EVs, then yes, infrastructure problems would be all over the place. But the buildup and demand for charging stations, opportunistic charging etc., will occur slowly. Sure, SOMETIMES the Costco charging station will be full....but when it becomes commonplace, then Costco (for example) will hear about it and make the appropriate changes.
Having been an ev driver for a decade now and also driving and charging when there were just a few hundred left in the bay area I can tell you all how surprised you all are going to be how often they'll be used. Particularly the popular ones, like Costco(as you mentioned) or anything near good stuff like restaurants, coffee shops, etc. Remember the airport and other places like it will be hammered due to free parking.SeattleBlueLeaf wrote:Jimmydreams wrote:My thoughts exactly.DaveinOlyWA wrote:i think that it will be months if not at least a year before any area is inundated with Leafs to cause a line up at the charging stations. hopefully synergy of the idea will have taken off by then and many many more will be in the works. i still fully believe that the private sector will take off with the idea when they see the level of adoption of the technology
If someone snapped their fingers and suddenly 10% of the vehicles on the road were EVs, then yes, infrastructure problems would be all over the place. But the buildup and demand for charging stations, opportunistic charging etc., will occur slowly. Sure, SOMETIMES the Costco charging station will be full....but when it becomes commonplace, then Costco (for example) will hear about it and make the appropriate changes.
Agree fully and I think worth stating that the need for opportunistic charging 5, 10, 15 years from now is completely different if the battery technology provides 300 miles per charge. Lots of things moving around in the technology and I think this will all work itself out pretty well.
I think you're mixing up data with interface. Interfaces can change but the data is the same no matter the interface. Data like where a station is, is it in service and level are all pieces of information that seem more cloud oriented than centralized. I would much rather see a joint effort to create some kind of Google spreadsheet or some such purely data-driven back end that all front-ends use to present the different interfaces to the data they wish to present. Sharing the data collection goal benefits everyone and allows each site to add their own special bells and whistles. It you all agree to use the same source data, then you all benefit from the shared information equally and you can truly compete on aesthetics.DaveinOlyWA wrote:comment on duplicity; when talking about any software app, there are a lot of apps that supposedly do the same thing. now how well they work across multiple platforms, user interface, server reliability, etc. is really not quantifiable in advance. so to say "been there, done that" to something that has just started is a bit presumptuous at this point.
The last thing I'm going to want to do when looking for a charge is get into a "Facebook/Twitter-wanna-be" state of mind and let me friends know that I'm cooling my heels at exit 14 waiting for the car in front of me to move. Am I missing the gene that requires I regularly tweet?ranchleaf wrote:Also here is why I am so excited about the carstations site. It can be more than just where sites are. As I mentioned before we hope to allow folks to use current technology to "check-in" at these sites, letting people know where and how long they'll be charging.