sproqitman
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Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:38 am

Has anyone read their EV Project agreement closely enough to know if members can use another public charging network? In my area (Seattle), there are a lot more Chargepoint stations (8) than EV Project stations (1). I'd like to sign up for a Chargepoint card, but not if it's going to get me kicked out of the EV Project.

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TomT
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:10 am

Nope, no problem! I'm an EV Project guy and I'm also signed up for Chargepoint.
sproqitman wrote:Has anyone read their EV Project agreement closely enough to know if members can use another public charging network? In my area (Seattle), there are a lot more Chargepoint stations (8) than EV Project stations (1). I'd like to sign up for a Chargepoint card, but not if it's going to get me kicked out of the EV Project.
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DarkStar
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:23 am

As far as I can tell, there is no "exclusivity" clause in the EV Project agreement. This makes sense because the EV Project LEAFs keep track of where you plug in (via GPS), for how long, and probably how many KWh you draw. when you plug into your Blink, it will automatically download that data and transmit it to ECOtality.
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garygid
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:02 am

The Blink EVSE does not download (get) any data from the car.
It does not even know what the LEAF's SOC is when charging "stops".

The LEAF can send data to CARWINGS, but it has no other data connection (other than the short-range bluetooth signal) that I know of.

Perhaps the EVProject has access to the CARWINGS database?
See SOC/GID-Meter and CAN-Do Info
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:08 am

Why guess about this question. Someone who is participating in the E V Project should call Ecotality and ask them.

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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:21 pm

garygid wrote:The Blink EVSE does not download (get) any data from the car.
It does not even know what the LEAF's SOC is when charging "stops".

The LEAF can send data to CARWINGS, but it has no other data connection (other than the short-range bluetooth signal) that I know of.

Perhaps the EVProject has access to the CARWINGS database?
The Nissan LEAF SL-e models include a Zigbee transceiver and the Blink includes a Zigbee transceiver... When I spoke with the EV Project representative when the first Nissan LEAF was delivered here in Oregon I was told this is how they are collecting charging data for the research project.
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garygid
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:26 pm

Thanks for that SL-e communication info.

I guess folks that ordered SL+QC (and later were approved for the EVProject) got $700 back for their QC option, AND Zigbee installed in the LEAF (just to "talk" to the Blink EVSE)?
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Re: Can EV Project members sign up for Chargepoint?

Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:47 pm

garygid wrote:Thanks for that SL-e communication info.

I guess folks that ordered SL+QC (and later were approved for the EVProject) got $700 back for their QC option, AND Zigbee installed in the LEAF (just to "talk" to the Blink EVSE)?
I think for a lot of us, they did not let us order until we were "approved" for the EV Project, probably for not wanting to have us order the QC option and have it in the price, then have to re-do the order to Etec later. Hence, Sept. order month for me but not allowed to order until Oct. 1.
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