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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:09 am

cwerdna wrote:
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DaveinOlyWA wrote:
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cwerdna wrote:
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I suspect the latter...

Not sure it helps that much to call attention to their more even ratio of CHAdeMO vs. CCS than all (or pretty much all) their other sites.
With two new sites coming in my area hopefully soon, will be very interested in seeing the configuration
TIL about "EVolve NY".

From a post over at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-5365590, miimura wrote:
"The EA app shows that this site is associated with the EVolveNY charger network. So, that is probably why it has better CHAdeMO support than other EA sites."

He then pointed to https://electrek.co/2020/09/23/nypas-ev ... the-state/.
Yep. Looking like no real change to EA's process; a special case situation here.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am

You all probably don't check out my local charging stuff I post here and Paul posts, for my region.

But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.

For example, I know that here in Inyokern, Tesla has pulled a permit for a "v3" station with something like 12 or even 15 v3 super chargers.
Which means their old 4 stall V1 (?) here will really be useless, for Tesla. What are the chances Tesla could sell it off and a company like Charge point or EA could buy it and convert?

How much would EA have to change? I know the old 4 stalls actually are shared power, but even a 4 stall shared power station for EA or charge point would be far superior to what we have now. (If you didn't know, Inyokern has only two 1 stall DC sites at 50 kW each, and each of those two are brand new and at less than ideal locations). So EA buying the old tesla charger and converting it would actually be far superior than the "new" DC chargers that just opened. Tesla would also make some money selling the site off and recouping money for a site that basically no tesla will ever use again. Also shows how far behind the rest are compared to tesla.

Thoughts?
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:51 pm

danrjones wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am
But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.
Thoughts?
Tesla hopes that EA and every other charging network that supports non-Tesla cars dies.

Musk wants to be the first trillionare. Competing EVs might ruin that, and leave him stuck at just the richest man in America.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:14 pm

danrjones wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am
But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.

For example, I know that here in Inyokern, Tesla has pulled a permit for a "v3" station with something like 12 or even 15 v3 super chargers.
Which means their old 4 stall V1 (?) here will really be useless, for Tesla. What are the chances Tesla could sell it off and a company like Charge point or EA could buy it and convert?
Why would the 4 stall V1 (?) stations be "useless"?

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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:47 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:14 pm
danrjones wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am
But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.

For example, I know that here in Inyokern, Tesla has pulled a permit for a "v3" station with something like 12 or even 15 v3 super chargers.
Which means their old 4 stall V1 (?) here will really be useless, for Tesla. What are the chances Tesla could sell it off and a company like Charge point or EA could buy it and convert?
Why would the 4 stall V1 (?) stations be "useless"?
What tesla driver is going to use the old stalls when there are 15 new ones right next to the old ones? The only argument in favor of that is that ALL 15 V3 are full, something that I don't see happening in Inyokern for many, many years.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:19 pm

At the end of February there were 556 sites open/143 "Coming soon", compared to 538/144 at the end of January, a gain of 18 open sites.

Here's the list of road trip coverage expansion or gap filler "Coming soon" sites in the west I've been or will be monitoring, and consider most important for completion:

WA: Port Angeles and Aberdeen (U.S. 101); Leavenworth (U.S. 2); Poulsbo (S.R. 3/305/307).

Oregon: Bend (U.S. 97); Warrenton & Newport (U.S. 101).

CA: Greenfield & Solvang (U.S. 101); Placerville (U.S. 50); Los Banos, Lost Hills & Oceanside (I-5); Buck Meadows (S.R. 120); Fenner (I-40).

AZ: Quartzsite (I-10); Kingman (I-40).

NV: Lovelock & W. Wendover (I-80).
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:18 am

GRA wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:19 pm
At the end of February there were 556 sites open/143 "Coming soon", compared to 538/144 at the end of January, a gain of 18 open sites.

Here's the list of road trip coverage expansion or gap filler "Coming soon" sites in the west I've been or will be monitoring, and consider most important for completion:

WA: Port Angeles and Aberdeen (U.S. 101); Leavenworth (U.S. 2); Poulsbo (S.R. 3/305/307).

Oregon: Bend (U.S. 97); Warrenton & Newport (U.S. 101).

CA: Greenfield & Solvang (U.S. 101); Placerville (U.S. 50); Los Banos, Lost Hills & Oceanside (I-5); Buck Meadows (S.R. 120); Fenner (I-40).

AZ: Quartzsite (I-10); Kingman (I-40).

NV: Lovelock & W. Wendover (I-80).
You missed one; Lacey WA @ QFC off Rainier Road and Yelm Highway
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:02 am

WetEV wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:51 pm
danrjones wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am
But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.
Thoughts?
Tesla hopes that EA and every other charging network that supports non-Tesla cars dies.

Musk wants to be the first trillionare. Competing EVs might ruin that, and leave him stuck at just the richest man in America.
I doubt it would be cost effective for EA to "convert" these SuperChargers into CHAdeMO or CCS. The insides are completely different. The support costs (spares?) would avoid them wanting to do one-off non-repeatable items.


As for WetEV's comments: I'll call that out as total bunk. But you can believe what you want.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:02 am

jlv wrote:
Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:02 am
WetEV wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:51 pm
danrjones wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:09 am
But I had an idea in regards to old Tesla charging stations.
Thoughts?
Tesla hopes that EA and every other charging network that supports non-Tesla cars dies.

Musk wants to be the first trillionare. Competing EVs might ruin that, and leave him stuck at just the richest man in America.
I doubt it would be cost effective for EA to "convert" these SuperChargers into CHAdeMO or CCS. The insides are completely different. The support costs (spares?)


As for WetEV's comments: I'll call that out as total bunk. But you can believe what you want.
I figured the pedestals were total changeouts, but you also think the underground cabling and / or the transformers would be different? Too bad.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:10 am

danrjones wrote:
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I figured the pedestals were total changeouts, but you also think the underground cabling and / or the transformers would be different? Too bad.
I got interrupted and posted a half-sentence by accident. I updated my post, but it replies to your comment. I would assume they have list of suppliers and equipment they have spares for. They would want to avoid a one-off of something that might not be up to their specs. (At least, I would if I were managing that build out).
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