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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm

The number of "Coming Soon" sites has jumped overnight from 87 to 108. 3 in WA (Kirkland, Seattle, Vancouver); 7 in CA (Davis, Folsom, Petaluma, Fresno, Pacific Grove, Soledad, Upland); 1 in NV (N. Las Vegas); 1 in AZ (Gilbert); 2 in IL (Bloomingdale, Oak Park); 1 in GA (Marietta); 2 in FL (Florida City, Davenport); 2 in VA (Fredericksburg, Sterling replacing the previous location); 1 in PA (Allentown).

The missing site is the site in Olympia that Dave told us about before, and which I'd previously added to the list. All of the above have been added to WetEV's list.

One site is open but I haven't found it yet, so hopefully WetEV will let us know. Unless it's one I'm watching that's remote from others, it's getting really hard to spot them.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:59 pm

GRA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm
The number of "Coming Soon" sites has jumped overnight from 87 to 108. 3 in WA (Kirkland, Seattle, Vancouver); 7 in CA (Davis, Folsom, Petaluma, Fresno, Pacific Grove, Soledad, Upland); 1 in NV (N. Las Vegas); 1 in AZ (Gilbert); 2 in IL (Bloomingdale, Oak Park); 1 in GA (Marietta); 2 in FL (Florida City, Davenport); 2 in VA (Fredericksburg, Sterling replacing the previous location); 1 in PA (Allentown).

The missing site is the site in Olympia that Dave told us about before, and which I'd previously added to the list. All of the above have been added to WetEV's list.

One site is open but I haven't found it yet, so hopefully WetEV will let us know. Unless it's one I'm watching that's remote from others, it's getting really hard to spot them.
Check again. Olympia listed sometime between Monday and this morning. Sadly, the ENTIRE Olympic Peninsula is still ignored by BOTH EA and EVgo.
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:19 pm

GRA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm
The number of "Coming Soon" sites has jumped overnight from 87 to 108. 3 in WA (Kirkland, Seattle, Vancouver); 7 in CA
One site is open but I haven't found it yet, so hopefully WetEV will let us know. Unless it's one I'm watching that's remote from others, it's getting really hard to spot them.
Sorry, but the web page I was using to find all the stations went away... I'll try another way.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:44 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:59 pm
GRA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm
The number of "Coming Soon" sites has jumped overnight from 87 to 108. 3 in WA (Kirkland, Seattle, Vancouver); 7 in CA (Davis, Folsom, Petaluma, Fresno, Pacific Grove, Soledad, Upland); 1 in NV (N. Las Vegas); 1 in AZ (Gilbert); 2 in IL (Bloomingdale, Oak Park); 1 in GA (Marietta); 2 in FL (Florida City, Davenport); 2 in VA (Fredericksburg, Sterling replacing the previous location); 1 in PA (Allentown).

The missing site is the site in Olympia that Dave told us about before, and which I'd previously added to the list. All of the above have been added to WetEV's list.

One site is open but I haven't found it yet, so hopefully WetEV will let us know. Unless it's one I'm watching that's remote from others, it's getting really hard to spot them.
Check again. Olympia listed sometime between Monday and this morning. Sadly, the ENTIRE Olympic Peninsula is still ignored by BOTH EA and EVgo.

I wasn't clear - I know it was added to EA's map and list as "Coming Soon" yesterday, I meant that I'd already added it to our list prior to yesterday, based on your report and your Plugshare pics, which is why I noted it separately from the others, and the total of "new' sites I mentioned was 20 rather than 21. Clear (as mud) now?
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:55 pm

GRA wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:44 pm
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:59 pm
GRA wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:21 pm
The number of "Coming Soon" sites has jumped overnight from 87 to 108. 3 in WA (Kirkland, Seattle, Vancouver); 7 in CA (Davis, Folsom, Petaluma, Fresno, Pacific Grove, Soledad, Upland); 1 in NV (N. Las Vegas); 1 in AZ (Gilbert); 2 in IL (Bloomingdale, Oak Park); 1 in GA (Marietta); 2 in FL (Florida City, Davenport); 2 in VA (Fredericksburg, Sterling replacing the previous location); 1 in PA (Allentown).

The missing site is the site in Olympia that Dave told us about before, and which I'd previously added to the list. All of the above have been added to WetEV's list.

One site is open but I haven't found it yet, so hopefully WetEV will let us know. Unless it's one I'm watching that's remote from others, it's getting really hard to spot them.
Check again. Olympia listed sometime between Monday and this morning. Sadly, the ENTIRE Olympic Peninsula is still ignored by BOTH EA and EVgo.

I wasn't clear - I know it was added to EA's map and list as "Coming Soon" yesterday, I meant that I'd already added it to our list prior to yesterday, based on your report and your Plugshare pics, which is why I noted it sepeparately from the others, and the total of "new' sites I mentioned was 20 rather than 21. Clear (as mud) now?
ok... BTW; mud is clearer :lol:
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:48 pm

That'll teach me to list it sepeparately instead of separately :lol:
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:39 pm

It's about damn time - IEVS:
Electrify America's 'Hyundai Select Plan' Addresses Pricing Issue
https://insideevs.com/news/404273/elect ... an-konaev/

. . . OK, so how much of a difference will this make? It's significant. If a Kona Electric driver in California was on a long drive and needed to charge for 45 minutes, under the current Electrify America Pass Plan they would pay $31.05 for the electricity (45 x $.69). If they had the Electrify America Pass plan without the $4.00 per month fee of the Pass Plus plan, they then would be charged an additional $1.00 session fee making the total cost $32.05 for roughly 40 to 45 kWh of electricity, depending on the charging conditions. That's much more than gasoline costs.

With the new Hyundai Select Plan, that same charging session will cost $15.75 (45 x $.35). There's no $1.00 session fee and Electrify America is waiving the $4.00 Pass Plus monthly fee, so there's no additional costs, just $.35 per minute nationwide. Unlike the regular plans, there's no need to check the pricing in your specific state, it's all the same with the Hyundai Select Plan.

Here are the different costs a Hyundai Kona Electric owner would pay in California for a 45-minute charging session based on plan:
  • Electrify America Pass: $31.05 plus $1.00 session fee: $32.05
    Electrify America Pass Plus Plan: $22.50 (plus a $4.00 monthly charge)
    Hyundai Select Plan: $15.75
Below is a notification that Electrify America is sending out to Kona Electric owners.
  • "The Hyundai Kona Electric and Ioniq Electric models have unique DC charging characteristics, and as such, we’ve created the Hyundai Select Plan designed specifically for these models.

    We are offering discounted per-minute charging from our 1–125 kW power level cost for Hyundai Kona Electric or Ioniq Electric drivers, as well as no session fees, and no subscription fee.

    The Hyundai Select Plan can only be activated via our mobile APP. To enroll in the Hyundai Select Plan: download the Electrify America app, select “Premium offers," choose the “Hyundai Select” plan, enter your EV’s VIN, then enter the “HSCharging” enrollment code.

    This program was created for Hyundai’s current Electric Vehicles, specifically, the Hyundai Ioniq Electric and the Hyundai Kona Electric.

    We developed this price to be specifically based on the charging profile of current Hyundai Electric Vehicles. Our Tier 1 pricing was developed for EVs that charge at lower power.

    The Hyundai Select premium offer pricing is a bit higher cost than the 1-75 kW power level cost because it was developed specifically based on the charging profile of current Hyundai Electric Vehicles. Our 1-75 kW power level pricing was developed for EVs that charge at lower power.

    In collaboration with Hyundai Motor America, we are offering no session fees and no subscription fees, as well as 35 cents per minute for Electrify America DC Fast Charging nationally.

    The Hyundai Select Plan is currently only available in the United States.

    The program expiration date is December 31, 2020.

    If you’re already an Electrify America Pass+ member, you may wish to downgrade to an Electrify America Pass plan when enrolling in the Hyundai Select Plan to avoid the monthly Pass+ member fee. The monthly Pass+ member fee is not applied for Hyundai Kona Electric or Ioniq Electric drivers when they’re signed up on the Hyundai Select Plan.

    We’ll be announcing something for Kia Niro EV drivers very soon."
Did you notice that last line in the announcement? Yes, Kia Niro owners will also be getting some relief soon. They experience the same problem as Hyundai Kona Electric owners as the vehicles share many of the same components and charging profiles. We'll be sure to let you know once we have information about that plan.

What are your thoughts on this "solution"? We're happy to see this finally getting addressed. Back in January when we met with Electrify America's CEO Giovanni Palazzo and COO Brendan Jones, I asked the duo about this issue and was promised a solution was in the works. However, it seems to us that Electrify America was punting a bit on this and pushing the blame on Hyundai and the Kona for signaling that it can accept more power than it really can.

I wondered why they couldn't just put the Kona and Niro in tier 1 where they really belong and that still isn't happening. With this Hyundai Select plan, Kona owners will pay significantly less. However, in our opinion, they should be placed in tier 1, and pay even less. Let us know what you think in the comment section below.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:57 pm

Had an EA charger give the error "VEHICLE_JINSIGNAL_REMOVED" earlier today. Whatever that means, a charger restart didn't help - but the car charged fine at an EVgo station. :roll:

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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:32 am

coleafrado wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:57 pm
Had an EA charger give the error "VEHICLE_JINSIGNAL_REMOVED" earlier today. Whatever that means, a charger restart didn't help - but the car charged fine at an EVgo station. :roll:
Calling customer support did not fix the issue?
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:21 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:32 am
coleafrado wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:57 pm
Had an EA charger give the error "VEHICLE_JINSIGNAL_REMOVED" earlier today. Whatever that means, a charger restart didn't help - but the car charged fine at an EVgo station. :roll:
Calling customer support did not fix the issue?
They rebooted the station to no avail, so they credited my account with a comp charging session and I left.

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